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    Anyone using Purex-Laserex fume extractor ?

    Hi everyone !

    I'm on eve of my second decoration&construction exhibition and my laser is quite busy in these days.

    I'm using Purex-Laserex fume extractor, its a great piece of equipment but its first stage filter which looks like standart vacuum cleaner dust filter is getting dirtier day by day.

    Any idea for cleaning that filter ? My extractor started to give dirt alerts more often and i have to pause engraving job everytime it alerts.

    My cleaning efforts only saves it for 1-2 days....so any ideas for a longer run time for that filter ?

    Thank you
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    You might consider getting a pre-filter like the one in this link http://www.vaniman.com/cyclone-pre-filters.php I did a brief google search and found that one and it should get rid of a lot of the debris before going to the extractor.
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    For a temporary quick fix......pull it out and use a regular vaccuum to clean the filter out......not sure how good it would work, but it's worth a try to get you by in a pinch.
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    Onur,

    What you're looking for is an electrostatic filter (the electronic kind, not the kind that are called "electrostatic" but create their charge simply by the air flowing around the filter). I'm actually trying to find one that will plug right in to a standard filter, like what you have now, but so far the best I've found will still require some sheetmetal work to create an appropriate plenum. The air flows past electrically charged wire mesh, and particles within the air stream pick up that charge. The charged particles pass electrically charged plates and stick to them. You clean the plates off from time to time by wiping them down with a sponge. The majority of the crap getting caught in your filters is smoke particles, so one of these units will drastically increase your filter replacement time.

    I'll let you know if I find one that is appropriate, though I don't know what it might cost to ship to your country.
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    Hi Steve, thats one of my method for cleaning it and my primary method is to beat it with a stick in the garden

    Beating it works better tan vaccuum cleaner

    But it works for 2 days only...it buzzes again after 2 days of work.

    What i'm looking for is a efficient way of cleaning method without buying a new accordion filter.


    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Clarkson View Post
    For a temporary quick fix......pull it out and use a regular vaccuum to clean the filter out......not sure how good it would work, but it's worth a try to get you by in a pinch.
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    Thank you Dan, using a pre-filter infront of extractor is another idea that can work too.

    Please let me know when you find something about it.

    About shipping to Turkey.....sometimes shipping with UPS or Fedex is expensive than plane ticket to USA

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Hintz View Post
    Onur,

    What you're looking for is an electrostatic filter (the electronic kind, not the kind that are called "electrostatic" but create their charge simply by the air flowing around the filter). I'm actually trying to find one that will plug right in to a standard filter, like what you have now, but so far the best I've found will still require some sheetmetal work to create an appropriate plenum. The air flows past electrically charged wire mesh, and particles within the air stream pick up that charge. The charged particles pass electrically charged plates and stick to them. You clean the plates off from time to time by wiping them down with a sponge. The majority of the crap getting caught in your filters is smoke particles, so one of these units will drastically increase your filter replacement time.

    I'll let you know if I find one that is appropriate, though I don't know what it might cost to ship to your country.
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    Hi Margaret, vaniman page is down i'cant access it. But i ll google for similiar products thanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Margaret Turco View Post
    You might consider getting a pre-filter like the one in this link http://www.vaniman.com/cyclone-pre-filters.php I did a brief google search and found that one and it should get rid of a lot of the debris before going to the extractor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by onur cakir View Post
    my primary method is to beat it with a stick in the garden
    My kids hate to take baths......maybe I should try your method.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by steve clarkson View Post
    my kids hate to take baths......maybe i should try your method.......

    ahhahahahah....! you got a point !
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    I didn't see Margaret's post... cyclone filters are great for removing large debris (like that 2mm letter 'c' you couldn't find after lasering a piece of acrylic and now your sign says "Wel_ome"), but it will do zero for removing smoke, which is the bane of particle filters. Cyclones are used in woodworking environments where therte is a lot of sawdust to remove, but those particles are immense in size compared to smoke.
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    Hi guys, My search was: pre-filter for dust collector. I was thinking that would work because it seems like Onur is doing a lot of laser tile, marble, granite, etc. but I honestly don't know what particle size debris they create. I'm with you Dan if the problem is actually smoke!
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    Quote Originally Posted by onur cakir View Post
    Any idea for cleaning that filter ? My extractor started to give dirt alerts more often and i have to pause engraving job everytime it alerts.
    Hi Onur,

    Love your work.

    It sounds like the system you have is under rated for the dirt and dust load in your working environment. Do you have a picture of the thing?

    My first thought is to use automotive air filters as pre-filter. Jeeps Cherokees use a rectangular filter and I would make a box that mounts over the inlet to the Purex filter and have maybe 3 filters that slide in slots.

    The automotive filters are cheap and plentiful. The Jeep fitlers are 4-bucks a piece here. They would be a whole bunch more expensive where you live, but I am sure a trip to an auto shop to look at filters would turn up some similar rectangular ones you could use.

    I use Jeep filters on the CPU-cabinets of my CNC machines here.

    Just a thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Hintz View Post
    Onur,

    What you're looking for is an electrostatic filter (the electronic kind, not the kind that are called "electrostatic" but create their charge simply by the air flowing around the filter). I'm actually trying to find one that will plug right in to a standard filter, like what you have now, but so far the best I've found will still require some sheetmetal work to create an appropriate plenum. The air flows past electrically charged wire mesh, and particles within the air stream pick up that charge. The charged particles pass electrically charged plates and stick to them. You clean the plates off from time to time by wiping them down with a sponge. The majority of the crap getting caught in your filters is smoke particles, so one of these units will drastically increase your filter replacement time.

    I'll let you know if I find one that is appropriate, though I don't know what it might cost to ship to your country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Johnson29 View Post
    Hi Onur,

    Love your work.

    It sounds like the system you have is under rated for the dirt and dust load in your working environment. Do you have a picture of the thing?

    My first thought is to use automotive air filters as pre-filter. Jeeps Cherokees use a rectangular filter and I would make a box that mounts over the inlet to the Purex filter and have maybe 3 filters that slide in slots.

    The automotive filters are cheap and plentiful. The Jeep fitlers are 4-bucks a piece here. They would be a whole bunch more expensive where you live, but I am sure a trip to an auto shop to look at filters would turn up some similar rectangular ones you could use.

    I use Jeep filters on the CPU-cabinets of my CNC machines here.

    Just a thought.
    Hi Dave, thank you

    Well...i was on the eve buying a jeep I'll check for its filters too.

    You mean this model of Jeep or something different than tis ?
    http://www.sahibinden.com/fotografla...XQQdisplayitem

    Attached photos are my system with purex (sorry for the mass)
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    Quote Originally Posted by onur cakir View Post
    You mean this model of Jeep or something different than tis ?
    Hi Onur,

    Love the Grand Cherokee. I have owned a couple of Cherokees in the past. Good cars and very reliable in my experience. The one you show has a V8 engine and I am not sure what filters they have.

    I meant this one...
    http://www.allpar.com/reviews/photos/im/cherokee.jpg

    Here's that actual filter, looks like it fits some Chevies too.

    http://tinyurl.com/b8b6sz

    Hope that helps.
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