Results 1 to 15 of 15

Thread: Cutting the groove on a bow front drawer to accept the drawer bottom?

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Baton Rouge, LA
    Posts
    86

    Cutting the groove on a bow front drawer to accept the drawer bottom?

    So I plan on making some bow front drawers for a cabinet I am making, and as I was thinking this through, how (and when) would I cut the groove in the drawer front that would accept the drawer bottom?

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    New England
    Posts
    822
    I haven't done quite this situation but I've done something close with a guided bit in router table, freehand if there's a enough curve to hold it perpendicular, clamped to a right angle jig if not.

    Pete

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Location
    San Francisco, CA
    Posts
    10,327
    Slot-cutting bit in a router, or a router table. You might want to put a different bearing diameter on it to set the depth.

    For instance http://www.eagleamerica.com/product/...-_slot_cutters, and http://www.eagleamerica.com/product/...-_slot_cutters
    Last edited by Jamie Buxton; 09-07-2009 at 10:53 AM.

  4. #4
    I have never done a curved front but I have done a lot of flat ones and just used a slot cutting with a larger bearing on it. I used the router table to cut them with no problem.

    http://www.eagleamerica.com/product/...uter_bits_-_ea

    with a bearing kit.

    http://www.eagleamerica.com/product/...uter_bits_-_ea

  5. #5
    Assemble the drawer (except for the bottom, of course). If your joints aren't tight enough to hold everything together use packing tape to hold it.

    Then set up a slot cutting bit on your router table with the proper amount of cutting depth (change the bearing size to give you the right depth). Put the drawer over the bit, so the bit is in the center of the drawer, and route the slot. If you need to make it a bit wider, raise or lower the bit and do it again.

    The corners will not be fully cut so you'll have to use a chisel to finish those.

    The advantage of this technique is that the boards are held in the proper upright position, and the slots on all the boards are guaranteed to line up. Sometimes when doing dovetails you get one board a small amount "off". If you cut the slot on each board individually, the slot on that board will not line up with the other slots. This technique fixes that.

    Also, the slot is not visible on the sides of the drawer as it would be if you cut the front individually.

    Mike
    Last edited by Mike Henderson; 09-07-2009 at 11:47 AM.
    Go into the world and do well. But more importantly, go into the world and do good.

  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Henderson View Post

    Also, the slot is not visible on the sides of the drawer as it would be if you cut the front individually.
    That's an interesting idea, Mike. I might give that a try next time I build a drawer...


    Since no one else has, I feel compelled to suggest the option of a bow-top table saw (*groan* )

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Raleigh, NC
    Posts
    2,854
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy Rayburn View Post
    So I plan on making some bow front drawers for a cabinet I am making, and as I was thinking this through, how (and when) would I cut the groove in the drawer front that would accept the drawer bottom?
    Mike's given you a very good way to do this with a router table and a slot cutting bit. If you're not comfortable with the high speed and instant results (or disaster) of a router, a good hand-tool equivalent is the Lie-Nielsen copy of the #66 Stanley hand beader. The LN version comes with a couple of front-bent router blades that will cut the groove for your drawer bottom.

    It is also possible (and quick) to do this with a chisel and a mallet. The key to getting it right is thoroughly immobilize the drawer front on your bench (sawn cauls underneath work well), and use a mortising gauge to deeply mark your two layout lines. You then just use the chisel, bevel down, and light mallet strikes to excavate the drawer bottom groove. The bottom of the groove will not be clean and neat, but that doesn't matter in this case, since it will be hidden by the drawer bottom.

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Baton Rouge, LA
    Posts
    86
    I was thinking slot cutter on the router table, but didn't want that deep of a slot. Sounds like I just need to get some larger bearings for it.

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    SoCal
    Posts
    22,514
    Blog Entries
    1
    I use Mike's method whenever possible. Works very slick.
    "A hen is only an egg's way of making another egg".


    – Samuel Butler

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Clinton Township, MI, United States
    Posts
    1,554
    Jeremy,
    Lee Valley makes a router bit specifically for drawer bottoms.
    They work beautifully (as you would expect - grin)
    Mike

    bottom bit.jpg
    From the workshop under the staircase, Clinton Township, MI
    Semper Audere!

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Wichita, Kansas
    Posts
    1,795
    My Whiteside slot cutters are 1 7/8 diameter and the arbor uses 5/16 ID bearings. From what I've seen, that's pretty standard across the company lines. A 1 3/8 bearing, B26, gives me a 1/4" cutting depth - different bearing, different depths. That cutting diameter and depth, leaves about 5/16" uncut in square corners and a total of about an inch of slot that needs to be hand worked to extend it into the corners.

    A smaller diameter cutter such as that on the specialized drawer bottom bits from Lee Valley would cut closer into the corner and reduce the amount of hand work necessary. Which you use depends on what you already have available, what you'd need to buy, and whether the reduced hand work is worth the ~ $30 for the Lee Valley bits. The larger diameter bits with a set of 5/16 ID bearings is more versatile. Don't know whether or not the cut depth on the Lee Valley bits can be varied with bearing replacement. You takes your choice and you pays your money.
    Tom Veatch
    Wichita, KS
    USA

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Northwestern Connecticut
    Posts
    7,149
    I'm having a vision of a plunge router, spiral carbide down shear, and a curved base plate for the router with a hole in it. Sound crazy?

  13. #13
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Location
    San Francisco, CA
    Posts
    10,327
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Quinn View Post
    I'm having a vision of a plunge router, spiral carbide down shear, and a curved base plate for the router with a hole in it. Sound crazy?
    You could do that. But you'd have to build the curved base plate. You'd also probably have to build a curved nest to cradle the workpiece while you rout on it. The slot cutter does the job with less effort.

  14. #14
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Green Bay, WI
    Posts
    17
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Quinn View Post
    I'm having a vision of a plunge router, spiral carbide down shear, and a curved base plate for the router with a hole in it. Sound crazy?
    This sounds like something I would try, spend 6 - 9 months making it, then (possibly) finding it's a little off, so spend another 3 - 4 months fixing it, and in the end the cabinet drawers never get made!! Slot cutting bit sounds great, if I could only get my brain to comply....

  15. #15
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Bucks County, PA
    Posts
    975
    Make the drawer front bowed on the front and flat on the back; then you won't have this problem.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •