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    Post Can You Add a Soft-start Feature to a UNISAW?

    I have a rebuilt UNISAW 36-812. Its powered with a 3 hp 220v stock motor. I want to add a soft-start feature so it does not apply full power when you hit the red button. Questions:
    1. Can this done without pulling down the motor?
    2. Are there any engineering reasons why this would be harmful to the stater or windings if I add soft-start?

    Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.

    Ken Gibbs

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    Why would you want to?


    Quote Originally Posted by ken gibbs View Post
    I have a rebuilt UNISAW 36-812. Its powered with a 3 hp 220v stock motor. I want to add a soft-start feature so it does not apply full power when you hit the red button. Questions:
    1. Can this done without pulling down the motor?
    2. Are there any engineering reasons why this would be harmful to the stater or windings if I add soft-start?

    Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.

    Ken Gibbs

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    DON'T put one on that makes the motor do anything BUT STOP the saw when you hit the RED button. The green one is a different story.
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    Green means go
    Red means stop

    Add a 3-phase motor and VFD.

    You can then controll the time it takes to come up to speed.
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    This would be easy with a 3 phase motor and variable speed drive (which can operate off 1ph power). Its a pain in the neck to do any other way.

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    There are numerous companies that specialize in soft-start AC motor control. Here is one:

    http://powerboss.s4i.net/


    Judging from the cost of other motor controllers, vfds, that I specify as an electrical engineer, they won't be cheap. Consider the cost vs. benefit.

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    I agree with Jason, why do it? The Uni turns on and off. What more could you want? Oh, sorry, soft start.

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    Yes but you may find the Leeson motor may not be compliant.
    Ya might best contact Leeson or a motor repair expert


    My single phase Hammer motors do that - sort of.
    The require that I hold the start button in while the motor spins up.
    The saw will spin up anyway the JP has such a heavy cutter head that I gotta do it their way.

    I've run old school Blanchard grinders that are like that too. It is something to do with the Capacitors I am sure.

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    I ask because I see the benefit with smaller portable and bench-top tools (routers, miter saws, etc.) because they can jerk and move when starting up, throwing off your accuracy and maybe even safety. But a cabinet saw is big and heavy -- not likely to move much when the blade starts spinning.

    Jason

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle Iwamoto View Post
    I agree with Jason, why do it? The Uni turns on and off. What more could you want? Oh, sorry, soft start.

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    The largest amp draw is at startup

    and amp draw is directly proportionate to thermal heat generation so I can't see anything good coming from extending this part of the cycle.

    Just my $.02 and worth what it cost you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed Peters View Post
    and amp draw is directly proportionate to thermal heat generation so I can't see anything good coming from extending this part of the cycle.

    Just my $.02 and worth what it cost you.

    Ed
    One thing soft start does is greatly reduce the current during startup.

    Mike
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