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    Hide Glue/Pot questions...

    I am transitioning from "Yellow glues" to hide glues. Wanting to go a bit more period.

    Where did you get your glue pot? Any suggestions or things I need to look out for?

    Thanks.

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    The Best Things has a nice assortment of electrics. Luthiers Mercantile has a neat brass pot and a hot plate to go with it.

    I got a 1 pint electric. Works OK with small bottles. I haven't used it straight in the pot with a brush. A quart size would be better with bottles I think.

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    I like the water-jacketed gluepots but they're hard to find nowadays; maybe a source in Britain would still have them.

    For my own shop, I picked up a used hotplate somewhere and made up a double-boiler with a saucepan and enough water to surround a smaller stainless steel bowl inside the saucepan. Worked fine and gave me enough control that I didn't either boil away the water or cook the glue. Takes a bit of watching after, of course, and in fact I didn't use hot glue all that often once I was on my own.

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    I have a small crock pot that LOML found at Walmart a few years ago for about $9. I use a tall olive jar (after removing the olives and placing them in an appropriate beverage) or pickle jar for the glue. I hang a small meat thermometer from the side to monitor water temperature. Works great!
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    Thanks for the tips.

    Anyone try the one from Joel at Tools for working wood?

    I like the crock pot idea!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin Roberts View Post
    ... I like the crock pot idea!!
    Since my earlier post, I tried to find a reference to the crock pot I have. It's a Rival Crock-ette which is no longer made, but I saw some on craig's list when I Googled for it. Any small crock pot should work. Mine is a 5-cup unit so I put about two cups of water in it to start. I found that a wide-mouth 1.5-cup Ball jar actually fits better than the jars I mentioned earlier.

    When I got interested in using hide glue, I saw the prices of "official" glue pots and decided I wasn't that interested! Then, LOML (in her most logical and diplomatic voice) said, "That glue pot thingie looks a lot like a crock pot with a jar in it!" Hmmmmm..........
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    Rival makes a product call the Hot Pot Express that can be had at Walmart or Bed Bath and Beyond type stores for about $10. I use a small glass baby food type jar to contain the glue, works great.. Happy gluing

    Neglected to add that you should purchase a meat thermometer for $8, use the meat thermometer to calibrate the thermostat on the Hot Pot for 140-150 degrees (it was almost all the way on the left on mine). The Hot Pot heats up pretty fast, so I just let the water bath get hot, then went the temperature stabilizes I place the jar with the glue in the water,,
    Last edited by Robert LaPlaca; 10-29-2009 at 8:01 AM. Reason: More detail

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    Many years ago I used a crock pot and it was just a tad too hot, but it worked good as far as glue joint quality goes. I never though about putting a jar inside the crockpot. Such a simple idea and no reason it shouldnt work.
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    I use a thermostat controlled baby bottle warmer (I picked up at a yard sale for 2 bucks) filled with water and use a small mason jar and a candy thermometer. (I clip the thermometer to the jar to keep the tip up off the heating element)
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    Works great....I can control the temp to keep it between 145*-150* (supposedly hide glue becomes ineffective above 150*)

    I've used the small crock pots before (potpourri crock) but like Tony mentioned the temp just kept getting hotter....
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    Robert is on the money - look for the Rival pot that has a knob on the outside to control the temperature - it doesn't have a scale, but I leave a cheap instant read thermometer in the water next to the glue jar. The Rival is not a crock pot but is designed to boil water for tea, etc, so it heats up pretty quick.

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    The Norse Woodsmith has a great tutorial on glue pot construction here.

    Good luck!

    Ken

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    get a $30.00 crock pot.
    one with a temperature control that is variable

    As an aside you can get a Light Dimmer to get fine control of the temperature too.

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    I am from the UK and you might find the giue pots hard to come by now but you have double boiler ( chocolate pots over here ), they do a good job as I use one myself.

    I can post a pic of mine if it would help.

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    I have been told electric wax pots (used to heat wax for waxing legs etc) make good glue pots.

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    I got my inspiration using the Rival "Hot Pot Express" from the following article:
    http://www.spurlocktools.com/id57.htm.


    I made a wooden stopper of sorts to fill the spout opening, holding a thermometer in the water bath. My Hot Pot has a much smaller knob in the center of the lid, so I had to cut the hole for the brush offset a bit.

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