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    Quiet oil less compressor for air assist?

    I am looking for a quiet, oil less air compressor to run the air assist on my Universal VSL 230. I think the air assist needs to be around 30 lbs. continuous. It will be in kind of an office environment and I need it to be quiet. Ideally it would be able to run for extended periods of time during the day. Inexpensive would be great if that is possible.
    I did a search about this but many of the posts are out of date. Any input would be appreciated.
    Thanks,
    Joe
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    See this thread: http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?t=131085

    I just got the big brother to the compressor that Dee Gallo has, and yes, it is very quiet...quite a bit quieter than the laser actually.

    (Now I just need the air-assist cone and the hose fitting...both backordered from ULS, go figure.)
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    I thought air assist had to be factory installed.

    Can you list the parts you are getting? Is it difficult to figure out?
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    If it's operating in "kind of a office environment" and your engraving stuff that needs an air assist, I would think that noise would only be one of your smaller problems..
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    Lee,

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    Hi Joe: I have sourced a very nice 4.6 gallon, oil free compressor that runs at 55 decibels, and provides 4.4 CFM @ 90 PSI. It sells for $500.00 shipped to your facility.

    Universal Lasers' Air Assist has a Dual Channel design. One line flows through a Nozzle or Back Sweep and the second line provides air flow at the Beam Window, The number 2 mirror box and, finally at the focus carriage to protect the #3 mirror and the cutting lens. This all means that you need a compressor that produces 50 PSI @ 2-2.5 CFM flow rate minimum.

    Please feel free to PM with questions.
    Last edited by John Volkmar; 01-29-2010 at 8:53 AM.

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    Hi Dave, your VLS4.60 DOES need to come from the factory with Air Assist installed. The Desktop versions from Universal are already set up with Air-Assist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Hintz View Post
    Lee,

    Which one did you pick up?
    The TC60. (I got the kit with the 3 airbrushes and hoses, just to have one more learning curve to waste time on.) More power/volume than the TC18 Dee got, but same noise spec, and a price below my impulse-buy pain threshold.

    Based on what I'm reading here, it may not put out enough volume to be an optimal air-assist source (certainly not enough to meet ULS's specs), but since I haven't had any air-assist so far (five years), it's worth a try. Won't know for sure until I can score the extra parts to hook it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Volkmar View Post
    Hi Joe: I have sourced a very nice 4.6 gallon, oil free compressor that runs at 55 decibels, and provides 4.4 CFM @ 90 PSI. It sells for $500.00 shipped to your facility.

    Universal Lasers' Air Assist has a Dual Channel design. One line flows through a Nozzle or Back Sweep and the second line provides air flow at the Beam Window, The number 2 mirror box and, finally at the focus carriage to protect the #3 mirror and the cutting lens. This all means that you need a compressor that produces 50 PSI @ 2-2.5 CFM flow rate minimum.

    Please feel free to PM with questions.
    Thanks for the info. I have an air assist "cone" for my VLS230 coming from ULS. It was $140 and I couldn't figure out why it was so expensive. Based on what you describe above, I understand the cost a little better now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee DeRaud View Post
    See this thread: http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?t=131085

    I just got the big brother to the compressor that Dee Gallo has, and yes, it is very quiet...quite a bit quieter than the laser actually.

    (Now I just need the air-assist cone and the hose fitting...both backordered from ULS, go figure.)
    Lee,
    By the big brother do you mean the
    Compressor Model TC-60

    That is $129+/-?
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    I notice that the compressors mentioned have a 5-30 +/- psi "working pressure". Is this sufficient to run the air assist on the Universal VLS230?
    Thanks,
    Joe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Peacock View Post
    I have an air assist "cone" for my VLS230 coming from ULS. It was $140 and I couldn't figure out why it was so expensive. Based on what you describe above, I understand the cost a little better now.
    Or not: you already paid for the plumbing John describes when you bought your machine.

    The price isn't exorbitant, but I suspect it still qualifies as a "high-profit part".
    Yoga class makes me feel like a total stud, mostly because I'm about as flexible as a 2x4.
    "Design"? Possibly. "Intelligent"? Sure doesn't look like it from this angle.
    We used to be hunter gatherers. Now we're shopper borrowers.
    The three most important words in the English language: "Front Towards Enemy".
    The world makes a lot more sense when you remember that Butthead was the smart one.
    You can never be too rich, too thin, or have too much ammo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Peacock View Post
    Lee,
    By the big brother do you mean the
    Compressor Model TC-60

    That is $129+/-?
    Joe
    Yup: see post #8. It's the biggest one on that site before the noise rating starts climbing.
    Yoga class makes me feel like a total stud, mostly because I'm about as flexible as a 2x4.
    "Design"? Possibly. "Intelligent"? Sure doesn't look like it from this angle.
    We used to be hunter gatherers. Now we're shopper borrowers.
    The three most important words in the English language: "Front Towards Enemy".
    The world makes a lot more sense when you remember that Butthead was the smart one.
    You can never be too rich, too thin, or have too much ammo.

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    Anybody use this one? (http://www.airbrushcity.com/comp45/)
    ARIES Model # A111 Just a Little Bit of Dynamite! Fully Automatic 57 PSI Only 5.8 Pounds

    • QUIET OPERATION! 58 db
    • Adjustable Air Pressure Regulator
    • Oil-Less - Oil free operation
    • 1/8 BSP & 1/4 BSP & NPT airline connection
    • Auto ON @ 43 PSI - Auto OFF @ 57 PSI
    • 110/120 Volts - 1/6th HP
    • Weight: 5.8 lbs
    • Size: W 6" x D 6" x H 5"
    • 2 Year Warranty

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    So Small
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    Bonus - Includes
    Thread adapters for 1/4" NPT and 1/4 BSP to connect almost any Airline.
    Plus Moisture Filter

    $99.50

    Last edited by Joe Peacock; 01-29-2010 at 10:26 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Peacock View Post
    Anybody use this one?
    QUIET OPERATION! 58 db
    Like I said: twice as loud.
    Yoga class makes me feel like a total stud, mostly because I'm about as flexible as a 2x4.
    "Design"? Possibly. "Intelligent"? Sure doesn't look like it from this angle.
    We used to be hunter gatherers. Now we're shopper borrowers.
    The three most important words in the English language: "Front Towards Enemy".
    The world makes a lot more sense when you remember that Butthead was the smart one.
    You can never be too rich, too thin, or have too much ammo.

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