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    Fein Sander Questions

    Good afternoon all

    With the impending woodworking show this weekend, I am looking to boost the economy as much as possible, even beyond and above my Minimax purchases. I am looking at Fein sanders, or more accurately, the Multimaster. Lately I have been getting into some turning situations that require sanding off the lathe of a flat surface intersecting a round surface. Below is an example. Not only is it serious drudgery sanding these surfaces by hand, my big fat fingers don't always do a good job of getting into where they need to get. So I am looking at this Fein tool, and I have some questions:

    <img src="http://www.enter.net/~ultradad/cherryburlbowl01.jpg">

    <img src="http://www.enter.net/~ultradad/cherryburlbowl02.jpg">

    First, does it really work as advertised? Years ago, I, along with other wishful thinkers, bought the Ryobi sex toy version that did nothing but vibrate, make noise, and take up space in the drawer. I do not want to do that again, especially at these prices.

    Second, if this thing does work, is the variable speed really worth it? I have a tendency to think not, but please correct me if I am mistaken. I know this thing has other attachments available. I have variable speed on a number of sanders and other tools. While that feature gets used on the lathe and the jigsaw, I cannot think of any time I ever used variable speed on a sander except to see if it works.

    Third, is there an alternative I should be considering? Keep in mind I am doing this off the lathe, and I need to hold the piece in one hand as I work. These pieces are combinations of round and flat, but there are often no regular edges, hence no way to clamp them down for a cabinet scraper, etc.

    Thanks.

    Bill

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    Bill, take this FWIW, as I have not used mine as you intend to do (though that IS a thought! ). I largely based my purchase of it DUE to, not in spite of the variable speed and available cutting accessories. I purchased the kit version at Woodcraft ($199.00) with the case. I made if VERY clear that, if I didn't like it, I would be returning the unit within the 30-day policy. No need! I was skeptical, at first, but this thing flat out rocks! Relatively light, powerful and works as advertised! Yes, the accessories for it are expensive, though some of the cutting blades (if needed) are available through a vendor or two outside of Fein. This unit is NOT a vibrator! I've used the cutting blade on it, as well as the scraper and both do *exactly* what they're designed to do, do it well and do it fast! I found the variable speed to be useful in controlling the amount of material being "attacked". IMHO, if you have a dealer nearby, who can give you the $$$-back guarantee, I'd most definitely take it for a spin and see if it will do what is required for you!
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    I know nothing about the sander-----that bowl is awesome.
    I gots to try that out of Cedar.
    Pics will follow as soon as I get it made
    Thanks for the post
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    You also asked about alternatives...talk to Uncle Bob about the Deltex...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Becker


    You also asked about alternatives...talk to Uncle Bob about the Deltex...
    Bill, ditto to what Jim says about the Fes! Had it not been for my need of the cutting abilities, it would surely have been Uncle Bob to the rescue!
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    I have the VS Multi Master from Fein and it just rocks. Very little vibration and the cutting attachment (although pricey) works very well. I used it to cut the bottoms of every door jam in my house for the laminate flooring project LOML wanted me to do. I still have to use it for sanding, but the variable speed does indeed work very well.

    Never used the Festool, but there is nothing out there like the Fein. It's my third tool from them (Vac, MultiMaster, Router) and I am very happy with the build and quality of tools
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    Thanks guys. What a problem to deal with! I already know the quality and am happy with my Festool tools, but it is a whole lot more money without the extra attachments. Of course, I am buying it for sanding, but then I got to thinking about all those windows I need to fix - 25 windows, either nine over six or six over six, plus three doors, and that is just the house! I don't even count some of the outbuildings that need window work! I guess I need to do some more thinking.

    Bill

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    Bill,

    Fein or Festool...I don't think you can go wrong with either. If it starts with an F and is from Europe, you are in good shape...but out a fair amount of cash.
    Wood: a fickle medium....

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    It looks as if you've a little radius there. Have you tried the flex edge disks like these at Packard?

    http://www.packardwoodworks.com/Merc...ng-adiscs-flex
    They'll roll up into a fairly tight curl. I've used 'em in angles cut with a 1/4" pointed gouge. Useful elsewhere, too.

  10. Bill, the bowl is beautiful. I have nothing to add to the conversation about the sanders but the bowl is beautiful...
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    Great bowl Bill!

    Sorry that I can't help you with the sander question. I do have the Festool Deltex on order but have not taken delivery yet.
    Last edited by Frank Pellow; 11-03-2004 at 6:20 AM.

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    Hi Bill,

    I love my Fien Multimaster. I bought it originally to cut those fiberglass panels in bathrooms. I worked wonderfully. A small amount of dust drifted to the floor compared to almost killing my self trying to cut it with a curcular saw. The sander works well and the pad has a slight radius to to that will allow you to get into the edge you want. I have seen that they now offer dust collection. I think they offer a felt pad that would allow it to take the radius of the bowl better.

    If you are going to re-do windows the Multmaster will save you a ton of time. Work them at the show for a really good deal.
    Chuck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Grumbine
    Thanks guys. What a problem to deal with! I already know the quality and am happy with my Festool tools, but it is a whole lot more money without the extra attachments. Of course, I am buying it for sanding, but then I got to thinking about all those windows I need to fix - 25 windows, either nine over six or six over six, plus three doors, and that is just the house! I don't even count some of the outbuildings that need window work! I guess I need to do some more thinking.

    Bill
    Bill, if you need something more than just a sander (as in window work), then the Fein is the way to fly! Windows is the PRIMARY reason I bought it, on the suggestion of the main installer at the local lumber yard. The scraper (which is included with the kit) is simply awesome for that! I bought mine directly from the Mgr. at Woodcraft and he concurred, saying that he has a couple window installer outfits regularly buying replacement scrapers for their units. I guess one of them buys them a 1/2 doz. or more at a time, because ALL of his crews are outfitted with the Fein. I can, in all sincerity say, that I'm as impressed with this piece as I am with all my Festool pieces!
    Cheers,
    John K. Miliunas

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Padilla
    Bill,

    Fein or Festool...I don't think you can go wrong with either. If it starts with an F and is from Europe, you are in good shape...but out a fair amount of cash.
    Hey Chris,

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Miliunas
    Bill, if you need something more than just a sander (as in window work), then the Fein is the way to fly! Windows is the PRIMARY reason I bought it, on the suggestion of the main installer at the local lumber yard. The scraper (which is included with the kit) is simply awesome for that! I bought mine directly from the Mgr. at Woodcraft and he concurred, saying that he has a couple window installer outfits regularly buying replacement scrapers for their units. I guess one of them buys them a 1/2 doz. or more at a time, because ALL of his crews are outfitted with the Fein. I can, in all sincerity say, that I'm as impressed with this piece as I am with all my Festool pieces!
    Bill,

    I have the Fein and also like it very well. I needed to break through old latex caulk between my walls and kitchen cabinets so that I could remove them. It was the easiest and fastest way I can see to do work like that. I also needed to remove some old linoloeum and in that case my Festool Linear with the scraper attachment worked much better than the Fein. Neither of those apps are anything like what you are contemplating but are typical of the type of work you would be reaching for these tools to do. I suspect for de-glazing windows the Fein would be better. For sanding, I might lean toward the Deltex. I expect to have a Deltex in my hands in a few days (not mine ) so I might be able to compare it to the Fein for sanding purposes only. I will try to post accordingly if you would like. Since I already have the Fien it is unlikely I would consider buying the Deltex for myself but, then again, it is a Festool. At this point in time, it appears there are more attachments for the Fein, and Chris is certainly right; they are both well-made units.

    Greg

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