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    #7 Identification?

    I am just wondering if this #7 is a Bailey before Bailey was bought out by Stanley.
    Does anyone happen to know?

    Thanks





    Last edited by Chris Vandiver; 04-06-2010 at 10:56 AM.

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    union by the lateral adjuster.

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    +1 on Union. The knob looks similar to a Union knob.

    Any marking on the blade?

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    Thanks guys.
    I don't actually have it my possesion yet. When I do I'll post more info.

    Thanks,
    Chris

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    The parts resemble a Sargent Fore Plane I have, but I didn't think they stamped "No 7" on the fronts like that. Plus, I think the Sargent's have a more rounded front...
    Last edited by Prashun Patel; 04-06-2010 at 11:51 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Vandiver View Post
    Thanks guys.
    I don't actually have it my possesion yet. When I do I'll post more info.

    Thanks,
    Chris
    It'll be nearly identical in use to a stanley with the same frog design, actually, it's almost identical in general. The one I had didn't have a frog screw (no big deal), but I sold it a while ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Vandiver View Post
    I am just wondering if this #7 is a Bailey before Bailey was bought out by Stanley.
    Does anyone happen to know?
    In another forum we identified it as a B-Plane, a product of the Birmingham Plane company. They made tools in what is now Derby, CT.

    Josh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshua Clark View Post
    In another forum we identified it as a B-Plane, a product of the Birmingham Plane company. They made tools in what is now Derby, CT.

    Josh
    A search on > Birmingham Plane < gives a link for Bob Kaune who has three of them listed. They are all at $198.95.

    jim
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    There are a number of threads over at Old Tools Archive related to the Birmingham Plane Company history 1, 2, 3.
    Birmingham Plane Company->Derby Plane Manufacturing Co.->Union Plane->Stanley

    413,300 Oct. 22, 1889 Mosher Patent that may be marked on the iron.

    a few more for reference:
    182,320 Spokeshave
    296,207 Joiner's Plane
    309,400 Joiner's Plane
    413,329 Block Plane
    508,386 Apparently this one was used by Derby Plane Co. (according to DATAMP)

    And some additional links:
    Brass City Records and 2
    Superior Works
    Plane Classics

    and lastly Toolemera
    Last edited by Jeff Burks; 04-07-2010 at 5:42 PM. Reason: Adding Links

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    Birmingham made some interesting metallic planes, my favorite of which is the "Bat Wing" rabbet plane. One day I'd love to own one. Darrell Chapnick makes an awesome reproduction as well: http://www.planeclassics.com/batwingpage.htm I drive through Derby, past the old Birmingham Bank every day. I often wonder where the old factory was located.

    As for value, the B-Plane bench planes aren't very common, but they aren't in high demand by collectors or users. Bob Kaune has some great tools for sale, but his prices are rather optimistic IMHO.

    Josh

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    According to Walt the factory was located on Canal St in what is now Shelton. That would be just across the bridge from Birmingham Bank to the other side of the water. And that area certainly has the right type of buildings.
    Last edited by Jeff Burks; 04-06-2010 at 9:08 PM.

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    Hah! That's awesome! I drive right by it on my way to and from work. I figured it would have been located right on the river to harness the power of the Housatonic to drive the machines. While that picture looks bleak, the other side of the street is undergoing a renovation and restoration. The buildings look a lot better and there's a great farmer's market there in the summer.

    Now that I've driven the thread waaay off topic, I'm calling it a night

    Josh

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    Thanks to all for the great information. Very informative.

    Chris

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