Hi All: I've been a lurking member for a few years and this is my first post to this great place. I like to try different things and decided to turn a hollow football. This is what I came up with. I hollow 4 identical (we hope) quarters on a faceplate (like peeling an orange slice from the inside) then I glue 3 of them together and mount them between center and turn the outside. After I'm happy with the shape I add in the 4th slice (the lid) and turn that to equal the other 3. To finish up I point one end and then jam chuck that end so I can complete the shape. If anyone knows of someone doing something similar I'd like to know about it. Thanks Dave R