I got to say I have been watching another thread and may have made a statement that upset some one I'm not here to judge or citisize anybody but this is where I stand. I'm always learning and triing to pass on what I know what I'm finding is that some tools on the market are over rated and they don't really measure up to the price that is asked for them. Marketing has become very crafty with the use of the internent and new people are sometimes mislead by this. If you a new person and want to get into hand tools buy a good tool and use it and learn how it works that is going to be what helps you the most. A quality tool will improve your work but be sure that's what your getting for your money be careful of sales pitches and don't get sucked in. You make the tool work the tool don't make you. My appologys for any misunderstandings.