Grizzly Cyclone Dust Collector(s)

[Jim Becker]

Will that work?? I've never tried such but my guess is that everything will go out the exhaust without a sealed container uner the cyclone.

That was my first thought, Terry, but the blower may be in front of the cyclone. The one at my local full-service lumber yard is that way.

[JayStPeter]

Hey Steve,

Will that work?? I've never tried such but my guess is that everything will go out the exhaust without a sealed container uner the cyclone.

t

I think you're right.
The chip outlet will act as the air inlet, sucking cold air into the shop. I doubt it will suck much dust either. If it does, I'd guess it'll suck it right on up into the filter. I think the only way it would work is in a push through mode. But, you still wouldn't get return air back into the shop. I think the only way a cyclone (either push or pull) really works is with a sealed collection bin.
I played around with mine when it was new. Well, more like "Hey, why isn't this thing sucking any air .... oh I see, whew". Met another guy who was telling me about having a hole in his chip bin. It caused most of the dust to be sucked up into the filter. Took him a few filter loads to debug the situation. Sounded like fun .. not.

Jay

[Terry Hatfield]

That was my first thought, Terry, but the blower may be in front of the cyclone. The one at my local full-service lumber yard is that way.

j,

Ahh...hmmm...wouldn't that mean that everything would go out the open cone??? What would make the air turn and go out the outlet to the filter if the blower was in front of the cyclone adn the cone was open??

BTW...now I got a stinkin' head cold too so maybe it's the DayQuil.

[Terry Hatfield]

I think you're right.
The chip outlet will act as the air inlet, sucking cold air into the shop. I doubt it will suck much dust either. If it does, I'd guess it'll suck it right on up into the filter. I think the only way it would work is in a push through mode. But, you still wouldn't get return air back into the shop. I think the only way a cyclone (either push or pull) really works is with a sealed collection bin.
I played around with mine when it was new. Well, more like "Hey, why isn't this thing sucking any air .... oh I see, whew". Met another guy who was telling me about having a hole in his chip bin. It caused most of the dust to be sucked up into the filter. Took him a few filter loads to debug the situation. Sounded like fun .. not.

Jay

Jay,

I have been there. Amazing how one little leak in the drum or the connection to the drum causes the entire world to end up in the filter!!!!

t

[mike lucas]

Every setup I have seen at lumber mills are setup this way, the big difference is that everything is outside, so there is no warm or cool air (Depending on season!) to worry about getting back in to the shop area.

I don't think this is a good idea for a climate controled shop.

[Mike Linne]

To clarify:
With cyclone air discharging to fan inlet (pull thru): A bottom outlet open to atmosphere will pull air into the cyclone displacing air that normally would be drawn through the "normal" cyclone inlet. Air leaks in the bin will act similarly, but also re-entrain any particles near the leak and send them back up into the cyclone. Many larger industrial cyclones have a rotary airlock valve between the cyclone bottom outlet and the dust/chip bin. This maintains an air seal and allows the chip bin/barrel to operate non-airtight, or allows direct dumping to the ground or a trailer or dumpster.

With the fan in front of the cyclone (fan discharging to cyclone inlet i.e. push thru) an open ended cyclone bottom will result in most of air and entrained solids going out the bottom of the cyclone. Almost no air flow will go out the "normal" top discharge of the cyclone. Obviously this is about the same as the fan discharging directly to atmosphere as the cyclone and afterfilter are performing no function.

[Steve Clardy]

Steve,

Not one of these. Griz has no inventory yet on these new ones. The Griz site says they will be available in Febuary.

t

Ah. Terry. Don't know about Griz inventory, But I know he has one. Bought over a year ago. Big GREEN with GRIZZLY all over it.
And there was one on display in Springfiels 6 months ago. So they have them.

[Steve Clardy]

Hey Steve,

Will that work?? I've never tried such but my guess is that everything will go out the exhaust without a sealed container uner the cyclone.

t

I don't know. I am just telling about how he is doing his. I am not a cyclone expert, don't have one, probably never will with the system I have.
It isn't up and running yet. Time will tell. Guess I shouldn't have even posted this here, knowing how the CREEK gets out of hand on some of these threads.

[Terry Hatfield]

I don't know. I am just telling about how he is doing his. I am not a cyclone expert, don't have one, probably never will with the system I have.
It isn't up and running yet. Time will tell. Guess I shouldn't have even posted this here, knowing how the CREEK gets out of hand on some of these threads.

Steve,

No problem my friend. I was just interested if that would work or not. Sorry it got out of hand.

As far as the cyclone goes, you buddy has this one.....right????

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The one's that we are talking about here are brand new. They look like this.....

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The G0525 has been discontinued acorrding to Griz.

t

[Steve Clardy]

Steve,

No problem my friend. I was just interested if that would work or not. Sorry it got out of hand.

As far as the cyclone goes, you buddy has this one.....right????



The one's that we are talking about here are brand new. They look like this.....



The G0525 has been discontinued acorrding to Griz.

t

Not sure on the model # Terry. Only seen it out of the crate, not set up.
I need to back up on the color. It's red, not green. Possible a prototype model when they first came out? His does have the cartridge, not a bag. And there's no plastic bag under the cartridge.
So on the model # don't know what to tell you.

Guess I should have kicked the cat before I came out of the house this morning.