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    Pine tool cabinet

    I have some 11 3/4 x 3/4 (finished dimension) pine boards that have been sitting around...I actually was using them as a lumber rack. As I had used up a bit of the wood on the rack, and needed to make some space I figured they'd be good for a saw till and/or cabinet. I laid out all my tools and can pretty much fit everything in a 22" x 11" box, with only a batten board or bridle joint door.

    I am concerned about how the wood will hold up, but the question is whether or not people who have built their cabinet out of pine are happy with them. I'm kind of talking myself into being lazy because it's pine. I had big dreams of dovetails and through tenons, and now I'm thinking butt joints.

    So...your pine cabinet. Keeper, or starter cabinet??

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    As long as you don't beat the tools on the cabinet,it should be fine. My old style tool box has a pine exterior,like many old ones,and a mahogany interior.

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    I wouldn't use butt joints - although pine is a bit harder to cut dovetails, it's still good practice. Besides, dovetails are ever so much stronger than butt joints. Just use sharper tools and be careful.

    There's absolutely nothing wrong with pine. My wall cabinet is poplar, just one step up. One benefit is that you won't cringe when you have to make a modification.

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    With my little plan there are really only two joints that it would make sense to dovetail, on both sides to hold the bottom, which I could do in a couple of hours. That's not an issue. I had planned for quite a few shelves and was considering half dt'ing or through tenoning the shelves in, which is what I was really mulling over. If I had a router I wouldn't even think twice, but I've gone down the less travelled road with the hand tools only to wish I had kept it simple stupid. In fact, that's kind of my MO. So I thought screw it, it's not a show piece I just need to get my tools in a box. I don't know. Now I'm thinking of going with a different plan altogether. I need to just pick the best design and go with it from there.
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    Check this out before deciding.

    John,

    Here's an idea. I stumbled across this plan in a 1924 edition of the Popular Mechanics Handbook for Farmers. It is a little bigger than your stated dimension but still looks neat and uses pine 1" x 12" for construction. I had planned to make one with frame and panel doors but haven't find a Roundtoit yet. Enjoy.

    Zach

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    Ah, you're talking about the interior shelves. In that case, cut dados to support those shelves. Glue and screw or nail them in place and it'll be as stout as you need. Easy peasy. And if you want to do it sans power tools, get yourself a 71 router plane to ensure that the dados are all the same exact depth. Besides this job, they're pretty handy to have.

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    Zach,

    Although I won't use the drawers for hardware, and my planes will be standing up as the 24" jointer is kind of in the driver's seat when it comes to the design, that's perfect. I pretty much have a barn style set up in the garage shop with the pole lathe and shave horse. I really didn't want a classy English or yuppie looking tool cabinet anyway. I was thinking about putting hexagonal interior frames like the ones you see on sheds.

    Thanks for the image!
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    Sure, I mean really, I could do it all with butt joints. Hell, I could just make a box and put it on the floor or leave everything on shelves and peg boards. I have a router plane, rabbet planes...all that stuff. I have a full on basic neander shop. The difficulty with shop furniture, for me at least, is whether you make it utilitarian, or a showcase of joinery/design/etc. I'm no slouch, but I do want to make sure that I don't aim so high that I don't complete the project, or execute it poorly. I'm going to be looking at that cabinet for a long time and don't want to shrug everytime I see it.

  9. I tried my first dado's using only hand tools the other day, and it was way easier than I thought it would be.

    Dado's for shelves is the way to go.

    In attempt to work on my writing skills, I also wrote up a full blog post on how I did it here: http://www.badgerwoodworks.com/2011/...-i-cut-a-dado/

    As for the original question, I've done a number of dovetails in pine and poplar and they work just fine. You have to be careful when paring to the line, but other wise it's the same basic concept. I'd say go for it, if nothing else it will help you decide what you really wanted in a tool chest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by john brenton View Post
    Sure, I mean really, I could do it all with butt joints. Hell, I could just make a box and put it on the floor or leave everything on shelves and peg boards. I have a router plane, rabbet planes...all that stuff. I have a full on basic neander shop. The difficulty with shop furniture, for me at least, is whether you make it utilitarian, or a showcase of joinery/design/etc. I'm no slouch, but I do want to make sure that I don't aim so high that I don't complete the project, or execute it poorly. I'm going to be looking at that cabinet for a long time and don't want to shrug everytime I see it.
    Traditionally, tool chests were often utilitarian on the outside but showcased the craftsman's talent on the inside. Would this solve your dilemma?

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    Stopped dados are pretty easy to cut with chisels and a Stanley #71 or equivalent.

    You can make them look a little better by rounding the corners of the shelves.

    I have done them without the router plane, it is just a bit easier with one.

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    The images show the difference. If you ever have visitors to your shop, they may be looking at the details of your work.

    Make something to be proud of and you will not regret it.

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    I'm in the process of building a traditional tool chest using the same dimension pine. I haven't started the dovetails yet, but I did practice them in the same material. I made my best effort to avoid the worst knots and sap pockets in laying out the pieces, but it seems impossible to avoid them all. I obsessed for a while about replacing them with butterfly patches and other elaborate schemes but eventually I decided it just doesn't matter for a tool chest. I am going to paint the outside with milk paint, and the trays and things that will actually hold the tools will be made from something else, probably cherry.

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    geez the stuff in my shop is cobbled together with sheetrock screws.... its lucky if it gets predrilled or glued!

    maybe i ought to step it up

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    I've got a small pine end table that was made by my great grandfather in 1935. It has not been treated with kid gloves either. I still use it.

    Pine isn't hard, but it will last for generations if you use solid construction techniques.
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    Pine Cabinet

    John,
    Sure pine can be used. Not quite as glamorous as mahogony and cherry, but I use it all the time. This is a tool cabinet I made, and is still in progress (still need to make some drawers and figure out how I'm going to organize left side).

    Tom

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