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    Milling QS red oak slabs for "Roubo" style workbenches

    This past weekend fellow Creeker David Keller NC and I hosted an event at my farm in North Carolina to mill up some quartersawn red oak slabs for "Roubo" style workbench tops.

    I had a 14" thick, 48" x 72" red oak slab that I milled several years ago tucked away in the corner of my shop, and last December David and I offered to mill it into QS Oak workbench slabs for members of our local woodworking club. The resulting slabs came out around 24" wide and 4.5" thick.

    My sawmill is a Peterson WPF model that can mill logs up to 5' in diameter, and David has a Granberg Alaskan chainsaw mill with a Stihl MS660 driving it. We used both mills, as the maximum width board/plank that I can yield w/o turning the log is 20".

    In addition, I had a 50" diameter, 16' long red oak log sitting in my log yard which we set up to be milled for future thick bench tops. Because of the significant weight of the log (over 10 tons), I used a crane to set it into place. I'll probably mill it in the next week or so.

    A number of members of our local woodworking club were on hand to assist, and we all had a great time.

    Here are some photo's of the action:

    Setting the slab up for milling:

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    Splitting the 48" wide slab into two 24" slabs with a chainsaw:

    cutting the slab in two.JPG

    Setting one slab up on top of the other for milling:

    Lifting the small slab.JPG


    Making the initial cuts with my Peterson sawmill:

    scott milling.JPG


    Milling out the portion between the Peterson cuts with the chainsaw mill (David Keller NC is the one in red on the right).

    xDavid and Gofor.jpg


    One of the milled slabs:

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    Picking up the 10 ton red oak log with a crane in order to move it into the sawmill:

    Picking the log.JPG

    Measuring and aligning the pith of the log parallel to the sawmill tracks and carriage.


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    Any time that a bunch of woodworkers get together to make sawdust it is bound to be fun, and this event was no exception. It was even more rewarding since were were producing something that was extremely rare - 4" x 20+" wide plank quartersawn oak workbench tops!

    David took one of the slabs home with him, and I look forward to seeing some photo's of the workbench that he makes from it.
    Last edited by Scott T Smith; 02-13-2011 at 10:34 PM. Reason: fix typos

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    Very interesting. The blade on that Peterson looks scary! QS oak should make some nice bench tops. Shoot a couple of book matched 2" slabs would make a great dining table. Thanks for giving us a look at your operation.

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    Wow.. that is one heck of a log!! Very impressive. One question come to mind..how are you going to dry those slabs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen Pereira View Post
    Wow.. that is one heck of a log!! Very impressive. One question come to mind..how are you going to dry those slabs?
    Stephen, the bench top slabs that were milled from the 14" slab are already fairly dry, as the 14 incher has been air drying for about 3 years.

    The ones that I mill from the big red oak log will be initially stacked and stickered in one of my barns, and I'll either air dry them for a couple of years and then run them through my DH kiln to finish them off, or I might get industrious and build a vacuum kiln sometime later this year.

    The nice thing about quartersawn slabs is that, even if you build a bench green from them, they won't distort that greatly during the drying process and they can be re-flattened as needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott T Smith View Post
    Stephen, the bench top slabs that were milled from the 14" slab are already fairly dry, as the 14 incher has been air drying for about 3 years.

    The ones that I mill from the big red oak log will be initially stacked and stickered in one of my barns, and I'll either air dry them for a couple of years and then run them through my DH kiln to finish them off, or I might get industrious and build a vacuum kiln sometime later this year.

    The nice thing about quartersawn slabs is that, even if you build a bench green from them, they won't distort that greatly during the drying process and they can be re-flattened as needed.
    Seems like in one of the discussions of the Roubo benches it was mentioned a green slab was ok if not preferred. They made sure the warping would push the center of the top up. That way it tightened the entire assembly at the leg joints and could easily be planed back to dead flat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derek Gilmer View Post
    Seems like in one of the discussions of the Roubo benches it was mentioned a green slab was ok if not preferred. They made sure the warping would push the center of the top up. That way it tightened the entire assembly at the leg joints and could easily be planed back to dead flat.
    Derek, I recall the same as you regarding using a green as opposed to dried slab. If I recall correctly, that would mean orientating a flat-sawn slab so that it is "bark side down", or when viewed from the end the growth rings are "smiling" instead of "frowning".

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    That is some serious wood porn!

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    Don't know why I forgot to comment when I read this last night, but this sounds like a seriously cool day! I'd love to see some pics of a bench made from one of your slabs, and hope someone posts one!
    Thread on "How do I pickup/move XXX Saw?" http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?p=597898

    Compilation of "Which Band Saw to buy?" threads http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthre...028#post692028

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    Scott,

    If you do wind up building the vacuum kiln. Please be sure and share as much as possible with us. I have a home built DH kiln. But would love to do a vacuum kiln.

    James

    Quote Originally Posted by Scott T Smith View Post
    Stephen, the bench top slabs that were milled from the 14" slab are already fairly dry, as the 14 incher has been air drying for about 3 years.

    The ones that I mill from the big red oak log will be initially stacked and stickered in one of my barns, and I'll either air dry them for a couple of years and then run them through my DH kiln to finish them off, or I might get industrious and build a vacuum kiln sometime later this year.

    The nice thing about quartersawn slabs is that, even if you build a bench green from them, they won't distort that greatly during the drying process and they can be re-flattened as needed.

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    Nice looking toothpicks Scott. I have been reading some of your posts on the NCWW site, and hope to someday visit your facility to get some lumber for myself. Have fun and stay safe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Wilkins View Post
    Nice looking toothpicks Scott. I have been reading some of your posts on the NCWW site, and hope to someday visit your facility to get some lumber for myself. Have fun and stay safe.
    Mike, you're welcome at any time. We're having a lumber run on Saturday March 5 if you can make it. There will be some zebrawood, african mahogany (although most of the mahogany is spoken for), and I'll have both red and white QSO available at a discounted price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James White View Post
    Scott,

    If you do wind up building the vacuum kiln. Please be sure and share as much as possible with us. I have a home built DH kiln. But would love to do a vacuum kiln.

    James

    James, will do. There appear to be several challenges associated with building a vacuum kiln, primarily having a strong enough vessel and secondarily the system for getting heat into the wood and chamber. I have some surplus 500 and 1000 gallon propane tanks that should be strong enough not to collapse (and all of the welding equipment required to convert them), but coming up with a simple, effective and relatively inexpensive heating option has alluded me thus far.

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    Scott,

    You handle some seriously big wood, dude! Very impressive. I would love to see some pics of the big red oak log during and after milling.

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    OK, I love my club, but being one of maybe 4 members under 55, and one of maybe 2 under 30. I am in the Wrong Club!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott T Smith View Post
    James, will do. There appear to be several challenges associated with building a vacuum kiln, primarily having a strong enough vessel and secondarily the system for getting heat into the wood and chamber. I have some surplus 500 and 1000 gallon propane tanks that should be strong enough not to collapse (and all of the welding equipment required to convert them), but coming up with a simple, effective and relatively inexpensive heating option has alluded me thus far.
    Could you build a solar kiln around them? Perhaps paint them flat black and put some silver reflective material on around the sides/bottom with a clear cover over them?

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