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Thread: One Pound Cut of Shellac before Oiling?

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    One Pound Cut of Shellac before Oiling?

    I've used a 1# cut of shellac on woods before staining to better minimize the "dark end grain" thing...now I've been asked to re-finish some rock maple countertops. I'm a little concerned about blotching, since the refinishing is going to be done on-site, with an oil-and-wax topcoat (tung oil, butcher's wax). The countertops are from an old bowling alley, all maple, no doug fir.

    Has anybody here tried to seal the wood first with a light cut of shellac, before applying oil? This just dawned on me, thought I'd ask around the water cooler......

    Thanks in advance. Walt.

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    What "tung oil" are you planning to use?

    Bowling alley lanes are oiled every few weeks or so. They may be difficult to stain. Have you used a chemical stripper to remove all the prior finish?
    Howie.........

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    If you are using a light oil like tung and no stain, then the blotching will be minimal. Just sand up to 320 or 400 and I believe (but I'm no pro) you will be fine.

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    As an avid bowler I can tell you for certian that bowling alley lanes are oiled daily!

    Old bowling alley lanes are constructed with nails not glue. I too want to know what tung oil you plan to use? If it's pure tung oil as I suspect due to your statement about wax and oil as the finish... Shellac will completely negate your intended outcome.

    Sealing the wood prior to oiling it is counter-productive; 99.9% of the TO and wax will wipe off.

    Most of the wooden bowling alley lanes that are still used have a VERY durable polyurethane finish. Removing it is a must before you oil them.

    FYI:The oil used for bowling is to control the skid and action of the new hi-bowling balls Lanes can be oiled to get scores high or very low. Typical 195+ avg. bowlers (myself included) have trouble scoring 160 on the pro-tour lane conditions.
    Scott

    Finishing is an 'Art & a Science'. Actually, it is a process. You must understand the properties and tendencies of the finish you are using. You must know the proper steps and techniques, then you must execute them properly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Holmes View Post
    Typical 195+ avg. bowlers (myself included) have trouble scoring 160 on the pro-tour lane conditions.
    OT, I know, but I gotta know: How do pro bowlers do on typical land prep I'd find at a local bowling alley. Can they still ring-in the high scores, or do they have trouble with the different conditions?

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    Hey Phil.

    The pro's on a house shot...they eat it up; 240-250 avg over 12 games or more. Don't forget the pros will bring 20+ bowling balls all drilled a bit different (in relation to the balls center pin) for the different lane conditions. Once they get the shot dialed in; their consistancy in delivery will bury the ball in the pocket on every shot.
    A guy in my league who isn't quit ready for the pro tour, he's still doing regional and state stuff and he avg'd 228 for the season. I heard about a pro that was in a men's classic league (like mine) he avg'd 245 for the year (36 weeks 3 games/week).
    Scott

    Finishing is an 'Art & a Science'. Actually, it is a process. You must understand the properties and tendencies of the finish you are using. You must know the proper steps and techniques, then you must execute them properly.

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    I wouldn't seal under the oil..That defeats the purpose..Oil bring out and pops the deep grain..Sealing it would negate that in my opinion..HTH
    Jerry

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