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    CO2 Laser Scribing Silicon Wafer?

    Does anyone have any experience/tips for scribing 16 mil silicon wafers? Can it be done?
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    I have no experience but I have heard that silicon is transparent to CO2 wavelengths.
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    Not with a CO2... a low-wattage YAG/Fiber would do it quite well, though...
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    Not sure of the make up, but I have a handful of Discs probably from the sixties in a veriety of sizes
    that were taken from main frame computers. In the past we have rotary engraved on them and I have
    lasered a few (though it's been a while) They are copper on color and if I recall correctly it sort of bleached the
    color out, don't remember offhand if it actually deep etched or not.

    Is this the type of thing you are looking to do? Old computer discs? If so I'll dig one out and try it, post a photo
    and settings of the results.
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    What are you trying to do with them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin Boekers View Post
    Not sure of the make up, but I have a handful of Discs probably from the sixties in a veriety of sizes
    that were taken from main frame computers. In the past we have rotary engraved on them and I have
    lasered a few (though it's been a while) They are copper on color and if I recall correctly it sort of bleached the
    color out, don't remember offhand if it actually deep etched or not.
    Those are iron oxide (high-tech rust, same stuff as on mag tape) coated onto aluminum platters. Sounds like they behave about the same as anodized or painted aluminum.
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    No, these are silicon wafers to be used to manufacture computer chips. The idea is to score them with a laser so that they can be subsequently broken into chips, much as you would cut glass.
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    Thats hi-tech stuff, have you ever been in a wafer fab plant? I have! millions of pounds worth of equipments, total clean room enviroment, everything controlled to the nth degree. Not something you can really do at home and you will need a solid state laser just to cut it and even then it wont be anywhere near upto the spec needed for making chips.
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    Well so much for that job then. Thanks everybody for the feedback.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin Boekers View Post
    Not sure of the make up, but I have a handful of Discs probably from the sixties in a veriety of sizes
    that were taken from main frame computers. In the past we have rotary engraved on them and I have
    lasered a few (though it's been a while) They are copper on color and if I recall correctly it sort of bleached the
    color out, don't remember offhand if it actually deep etched or not.

    Is this the type of thing you are looking to do? Old computer discs? If so I'll dig one out and try it, post a photo
    and settings of the results.
    Funny you should mention those... had a buddy over this past weekend and sitting on top of my laser was a stack of those platters. Maybe 20 of them, 14-inchers, from the mid-60s. I think each one holds (held?) about 480kB!!!

    Compare that to the 2.5" platters sitting here on my desk that hold 250GB.
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    I wound up using an assist gas and had no trouble cutting through.

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    Well, this thread was 6 years old. So I guess technology caught up. LOL
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    WOW 6 years later you come back and tell us what you did LOL LOL

    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Selway View Post
    I wound up using an assist gas and had no trouble cutting through.

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    Uhh, most of us do not have a 400 watt Kern to do it with. [raw envy]
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