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  1. 02-23-2012, 2:51 PM #1
    Jeff Duncan
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    Another shaper....but it's not my fault!!!

    It's not that I needed another shaper, or that I could afford it, and forget about having the room for it, but I just had to place a bid on it full well knowing I'd never get it for my measly lowball bid of $1275. Imagine my surprise when nobody increased the bid.....a whopping $1124 for a Martin shaper with power feed included

    How does that happen? I see smaller SCM T-110's sell for twice that at auction on a fairly regular basis!

    Well all I can say is it's not my fault. I would have done a disservice to myself if I didn't buy it for that amount! So yes I'm broke, and yes I'm a bit more crowded, but I'm now the happy owner of 2 Martin shapers



    My new T-21, 7-1/2HP (I think, can't get in far enough to confirm), with a 2 speed motor and 2 additional speeds available via belt change. Just cleaned her up this morning and fired her up....purrs like a kitten

    As for aesthetics....you be the judge?
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  3. 02-23-2012, 3:27 PM #2
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    You are running on full power now Mr. Man What a super find. Good for you!
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  4. 02-23-2012, 3:51 PM #3
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    Ummm...YOU SUCK!!!! That was a great deal, worst case senario flip it and buy something you need more.
    Of all the laws Brandolini's may be the most universally true.

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    Your bandsaw weighs more when you leave the spring compressed instead of relieving the tension.
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    Buy a feeder and get a shaper for free. Good find Jeff! Fence or no fence?
    Last edited by J.R. Rutter; 02-23-2012 at 5:23 PM.
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  6. 02-23-2012, 4:03 PM #5
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    I'll arm wrestle you for it! That's a deal!

    Was the auction local to you?
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  7. 02-23-2012, 4:20 PM #6
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    Best deal I've ever seen if the bearings are good. Still good if work needs to be done. You are now tops in the circle of life. dave
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    You do know you could have gotten a Grizzly G1026 for just $170 more shipped and without that pesky feeder mounted on it!!! That is some perspective...
    Of all the laws Brandolini's may be the most universally true.

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    Your bandsaw weighs more when you leave the spring compressed instead of relieving the tension.
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  9. 02-23-2012, 5:18 PM #8
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    that looks like it'll raise a panel in one swipe
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  10. 02-23-2012, 5:18 PM #9
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    Jeff, I keep coming back and looking. My choices are to either become your best friend or hate you forever. Dave
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  11. 02-23-2012, 5:42 PM #10
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    Ya, you suck!

    I have been looking for a T130 used and can't even find junk for that price. What is the largest cutter that thing can run?

    Thing is, if I had found that auction, we would have been bidding against each other, so now that you are out of the way maybe I will get lucky!

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  12. 02-23-2012, 8:57 PM #11
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    Wow, nice score. Thats a color green I could grow to love. So if you find its in your way just write and I'll come get it out of there for you. Honestly, I could leave now for instance........... Enjoy that, and kudos to you for giving that other German shaper a buddy to hang with.
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  13. 02-23-2012, 10:36 PM #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Quinn View Post
    Thats a color green I could grow to love.
    It is funny how quality makes a color much more palatable!
    Of all the laws Brandolini's may be the most universally true.

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    Your bandsaw weighs more when you leave the spring compressed instead of relieving the tension.
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    Nice score Jeff!! Looks like a Univer feeder as well?

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  15. 02-24-2012, 8:16 AM #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Van Huskey View Post
    You do know you could have gotten a Grizzly G1026 for just $170 more shipped and without that pesky feeder mounted on it!!! That is some perspective...
    Exactly, and you would have owned a named brand instead of a Martin.

    Martin, Martin who? Anyone ever heard of him?

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  16. 02-24-2012, 10:12 AM #15
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    Well I'd be lying if I said I hadn't been tempted by a Grizzly, though it was a used one with the ultra wide table and 7-1/2hp motor. I thought it wasn't bad for $2k, just didn't pull the trigger....glad I didn't now

    JR, it did come with the fence, I just hadn't pulled it out yet.

    So a couple other things to answer, not necessarily in order....

    Bearings sound pretty good so far. I was very pleasantly surprised to find this is still one of the open oil bearing machines. I've been told this is pretty much the best type of bearing for these machines, but at some point Martin went to either a greased or a sealed bearing setup. I bid on it figuring it had bearings that I would likely need to replace, but I spent some time flushing the old oil out and re-filling yesterday and they seem OK so far. From experience I know replacing them would cost about $600 and close to a full day, so still not bad.

    Not sure of the largest cutter it will handle, but much larger than anything I currently own! The larger table opening is 12" and the 1-1/8" spindle will handle a bit over 5" under the nut. My other shaper with a 1-1/4" spindle will handle about 6-1/2" under the nut. These were made with tenoning in mind so they're about as beefy as you could ever want.

    The feeder is a Steff and seems to work fine. The original rubber wheels are junk, but Western Roller will be able to help me out there.

    Dave, if it helps your welcome to test drive it if your ever in the neighborhood!

    This auction was in New York so about 4 hours drive for me. So in reality with gas and truck rental included my total investment is now up around $1600 or so. It was a very short auction and I almost missed it myself. I think it was only up for a little over a week.

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