Apr 01 2012_1404.jpgApr 01 2012_1405.jpgI tried my second hollowed vessel.I chose a classical design.I can honestly say.It was a much easier process ,then my first.You gents were right. You said choose an easier design .So,what do you think? It also is Apple.Thats what I happen to have plenty of.8x5 inches,and Beal buffed.Constructive criticism again is always welcomed.Norbert Ploetz