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    Lee Valley Plow Plane

    I need a plow plane.
    I have read that some of the Stanley offerings can be a PITA to setup and use.

    I think I will get the LV small plow plane.

    Does anyone own or have used this plane?

    Chris Schwartz had a good review of it and it is LV.

    I want something plain and simple to use.

    Thanks,
    Dale

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    Its fantastic! Very very easy to use. Probably one of the easiest planes to adjust/use there is when in regular plow mode. If you get the add on's too, they require a little more fiddling, but even those are nuts simple to setup once you've done it a couple times.

    If you want other options I was told by Deneb at an LN tool event recently that their plow plane is going to be modeled after the Stanley 43 millers patent. No idea when that's coming out though, and personally I wouldn't trade my LV plow for anything anyway, but just thought I'd mention it as one more thing to think about.

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    Loved mine, but the handle murdered my hand so I had to sell it. Having a heck of a time trying to find a suitable replacement that'd cost less than a used car.
    Last edited by paul cottingham; 10-31-2012 at 7:16 PM.
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    The Stanley 45 can be a PITA to set up and use.

    The first thing one has to understand with (possibly any) Stanley multi-plane is the fence may not come square from the factory.

    The second thing one has to understand with maybe any plow or multi-plane is the plane will try to push back toward the edge. A skew blade plane may counter this, but since none of my experience is with a skew blade plow, my thought is just theory for me.

    Many have a tendency to try to take too thick of a shaving with a plow or rebate plane. Going too fast without paying attention to each cut is what gives slanted sides to the groves or dado being cut.

    One trick for working with a plow for shelves or drawer bottoms is to work a little extra length to make a gauge to check your shelves or bottoms without having to try them in the finished piece. This can save a lot of time when one is working with uneven re-sawn stock.

    My guess is you can't go wrong with the LV plow. With a little careful tuning and experience, you could also find the Stanley 45 to have a bit more versatility with beading cutters and match cutters.

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    The small LV plow is probably my favorite specialty plane. Used to be my LV router plane, but it's nbr 2 now.

    I find the small plow very intuitive to set up and use.
    Where did I put that tape measure...

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    I have the LV small plow, it works great, and it's incredibly precise and solid.

    For a while I used a Stanley 45, which isn't difficult to use if you're on a budget and you want irons that are easy to make or find. It's a bit clattery, though, and it does feel like in heavy work from time to time like you might break it (though that doesn't happen).

    Record's small offerings are also out there if you find one and it's a lot cheaper than the LV version.

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    Thanks guys for the responses.
    I have seen some Stanley plow/multi planes for sale.
    I don't have the time right now to fiddle with them and I would not have a clue if it was all there.

    I think I will order the LV plow.
    Maybe look at a Stanley 45-46 or a 50 later when I have more time to play.

    Thanks again,
    Dale

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dale Cruea View Post
    I need a plow plane.
    I have read that some of the Stanley offerings can be a PITA to setup and use.

    ...

    I want something plain and simple to use.
    The Stanley 50, Record 043, and 044 are plain and simple to use. I have and use the Stanley 50 and Record 043. They don't have cute little knurled brass doodads etc, but they do the job just fine.

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    The only trouble with the 50s is if you get the type that grips the side of the iron, they will not hold tightly to a 1/8" iron. Whether or not someone uses a 1/8" iron much is up for debate, but I got a 50 solely to use with the 1/8" iron and was pretty peeved to find it didn't grip the iron very well, leading to an iron that varied its depth of cut with each stroke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paul cottingham View Post
    Loved mine, but the handle murdered my hand so I had to sell it. Having a heck of a time trying to find a suitable replacement that'd lest cost more than a used car.
    Why didn't you simply modify the handle? A rasp and a bit of elbow grease and you are good to go...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob blakeborough View Post
    Why didn't you simply modify the handle? A rasp and a bit of elbow grease and you are good to go...
    To be honest, I didn't trust myself not to wreck the handle without improving the situation.
    Paul

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    The only trouble with the 50s is if you get the type that grips the side of the iron, they will not hold tightly to a 1/8" iron.
    Is that with the extra bolt to hold the smaller irons?

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Weaver View Post
    The only trouble with the 50s is if you get the type that grips the side of the iron, they will not hold tightly to a 1/8" iron. Whether or not someone uses a 1/8" iron much is up for debate, but I got a 50 solely to use with the 1/8" iron and was pretty peeved to find it didn't grip the iron very well, leading to an iron that varied its depth of cut with each stroke.
    Have not experienced this issue

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    Haven't seen a number 50 in person, so I could be way off, but couldn't you grind an iron narrower at the business end, and leave it wider at the top so the clamps still work?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshua Pierce View Post
    Haven't seen a number 50 in person, so I could be way off, but couldn't you grind an iron narrower at the business end, and leave it wider at the top so the clamps still work?
    Sure. Mine went out the door before I started to make and harden my own irons, though, and most people seem to be averse to any metalwork.

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