this just raises a huge red flag......
www [DOT] ebay [DOT] com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230977934241
this just raises a huge red flag......
www [DOT] ebay [DOT] com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230977934241
I think the scam is that the item is listed with the intention of the bidding to go to a ridiculous amount then the seller will contact everyone who made a realistic bid and offer them the machine for the $2,500 that they had for the "buy it now" price. They will say that the "winning" bid of $98,000 was a mistake and was retracted so the machine is still available. They will offer it to everyone and collect money from as many people as they can - there is no laser, never was, never will be. The price is so low that many greedy people will take advantage of it without ever thinking that if it's too good to be true, it usually is...
That's one possibility, and I would agree if there was only one high bid... there are a bunch. In cases like those, I think its the thievery market "sorting itself out", so to speak. A few nice people realize it's a scam, so they start placing high bids knowing full well eBay won't hold them to it. The forum discussions around the practice are quite amusing (and surprisingly organized). The "seller" has to make a claim to eBay that "the last 20 bidders all fell through", which raises suspicion on their selling practices.
Hi-Tec Designs, LLC -- Owner (and self-proclaimed LED guru )
Trotec 80W Speedy 300 laser w/everything
CAMaster Stinger CNC (25" x 36" x 5")
USCutter 24" LaserPoint Vinyl Cutter
Jet JWBS-18QT-3 18", 3HP bandsaw
Robust Beauty 25"x52" wood lathe w/everything
Jet BD-920W 9"x20" metal lathe
Delta 18-900L 18" drill press
Flame Polisher (ooooh, FIRE!)
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Contact the seller and tell them you will pick it up and pay for it then.....That usually gets them going....
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1 - Epilog Radius 25watt laser 1998
1 - Epilog Legend EXT36 75watt laser 2005
1 - Epilog Legend EXT36 75watt laser 2007
1 - Epilog Fusion M2 32 120watt laser with camera 2015
2 - Geo Knight K20S 16x20 Heat Press
Geo Knight K Mug Press,
Ricoh GX-7000 Dye Sub Printer
Zerox Phaser 6360 Laser Printer
numerous other tools and implements
of distruction/distraction!
Wow, that is truly the most amazing deal I've ever seen, and not just for the Laser, did you see all the extras listed!? The extras alone are worth more than $2500.
The following items are included with the purchase of this laser at no additional charge:
- EPILOG Lathe for engraving cylindrical objects (wine bottles, glasses, drum sticks, etc...)
- Dedicated Laptop (Toshiba Satellite) for running print que, drivers, etc...
- Graphic Design Software - Corel Draw, Photoshop CS
- Comprehensive Library of High Resolution Graphic Art images formatted for etching/printing
- All necessary shop tools (digital micrometers, calipers, etc...)
- Over $1500 in anodized aluminum engraving blanks (dog tags, id tags, business cards, luggage tags, etc...) in various colors
- APC Power Back-up PRO 1100
- Fire Extinguisher (charged for use on electronics)
- Delta Air Ventilation System and duct work for venting system exhaust outside
I can't afford not to get this! Lol
Universal PLS 6.120D 75 watt
MutiCam Apex CNC 4'x8' w 6 bit TC.
EnrRoute 6 Pro 3d software.
Vision 2550 Rotary Engraver.
Hell, if this is "real" all my machines are going up for auction today
Epilog Fusion Fiber 30 watt
Epilog 36 EXT 75 watt
Epilog 36 EXT 60watt x 2
Epilog 32Ex 60watt (new tube, putting out 72 watts)
Epilog Summit 25watt x2
IL-60 2 x 100 watts 60" x 120"
Corel X6
Adobe CS6 Master Edition
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Could be that they meant to put $25000. relized to late to remove it ,Then had a friend bid it up so they would not have to sell it for 2500.
GCC new mercury II 40 watt
Corel Draw x5 suite
All kinds of woodworking/construction junk
I'm not a laser engraver but as an eBayer I am interested in this thread. I googled the model of this laser and found what appears to be the same exact machine that is on eBay at this site and going for $4800. The photos are identical although I suppose they could be stock factory photos.
http://philadelphia.olx.com/epilog-h...-iid-504067144
Interesting... this same laser - pictures & description including Paul's list above was sold on the 18th of March for $11,600. The item listed for this thread appears to have been removed as it's no longer listed in active or completed listings.
Last edited by Tim Bateson; 05-15-2013 at 7:51 PM.
Tim
There are Big Brain people & Small Brain people. I'm one of the Big Brains - with a lot of empty space.- me
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Epilog Mini24 – 35watt - 2006 (Original Tube)
Ricoh SG3110DN
- Liberty Laser LLC
Damn, So those back stage Vip Passes for 3 people for the Justin Beiber Concert i just purchased for $75 dollars might be a hoax ?????
To the people who correct grammar to prove a point
Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteers be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe."卍卍
Hi-Tec Designs, LLC -- Owner (and self-proclaimed LED guru )
Trotec 80W Speedy 300 laser w/everything
CAMaster Stinger CNC (25" x 36" x 5")
USCutter 24" LaserPoint Vinyl Cutter
Jet JWBS-18QT-3 18", 3HP bandsaw
Robust Beauty 25"x52" wood lathe w/everything
Jet BD-920W 9"x20" metal lathe
Delta 18-900L 18" drill press
Flame Polisher (ooooh, FIRE!)
Freeware: InkScape, Paint.NET, DoubleCAD XT
Paidware: Wacom Intuos4 (Large), CorelDRAW X5
He was just here in South Africa last week ..a whole vomitfest of Beleibers ... luckily my 16 yr old daughter has more taste ..she went to the Bon Jovi concert at the same venue the night before ...
Rodney Gold, Toker Bros trophies, Cape Town , South Africa :
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Tekcel 1200x2400 router , 900 x 600 60w Shenui laser , 1200 x 800 80w Reci tube Shenhui Laser
6 x longtai lasers 400x600 60w , 1 x longtai 20w fiber
2x Gravo manual engravers , Roland 540 large format printer/cutter. CLTT setup
1600mm hot and cold laminator , 3x Dopag resin dispensers , sandblasting setup, acid etcher