View Poll Results: What System Do You Use?

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  • Grinder

    15 9.32%
  • Multiple Systems w/ Grinder

    55 34.16%
  • Multiple Systems w/o Grinder

    10 6.21%
  • Worksharp, Veritas or Disk system

    20 12.42%
  • Belt Sanding System

    3 1.86%
  • All Done By Hand with/without Guides

    58 36.02%
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Thread: What Sharpening System Do You Use

  1. #1
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    Question What Sharpening System Do You Use

    It has been awhile since I have composed a poll.

    Hopefully next time "Other" is remembered.

    This is just a crude way to learn how many folks may not have a power sharpening system. It also breaks down the power systems into grinders for hollow grinding and flat bevel systems like the Worksharp or Veritas Mk II Power Sharpening System®.

    Thank you for participating.

    Grinder

    Multiple Systems w/ Grinder

    Multiple Systems w/o Grinder

    Worksharp, Veritas or Disk system

    Belt Sanding System

    All Done By Hand with/without Guides

    jtk
    Last edited by Jim Koepke; 09-11-2013 at 11:33 PM.
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    Mixed methods. All flat simple bever. Worksharp from a platform on top with a guide. Then I go to water stones. Strop while working.
    Shawn

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    Jim,

    Where's the appropriate vote for all freehand honing (Secondary / tertiary) on stones w/grinder for primary bevel?
    One can never have too many planes and chisels... or so I'm learning!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Neeley View Post
    Jim,

    Where's the appropriate vote for all freehand honing (Secondary / tertiary) on stones w/grinder for primary bevel?
    My interests come from another thread that got me wondering what percentage of people have a grinder compared to how many had power systems that are not grinders. Finally for clarification there is a category for those who do not have a powered system.

    There is a lot to be said for a hollow grind when one freehand sharpens. There will be a grinder in my future, it is just that it will most likely be foot powered.

    My guess is most folks have some other honing set up beyond any power system they have. Any of the systems in the poll will work with the use of secondary/tertiary bevels.

    My power set up currently is the Veritas MK II power sharpening system. It is actually set up to produce a secondary bevel. I have learned to defeat that feature.

    jtk
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    I have both an older Tormek and a Baldor 7-inch 1800 rpm grinder, the latter for Woodturning tools. I've tried many systems but have settled on using the Tormek for creating the hollow grind and Stu's Sigma three stone progression for finishing freehand. It's been a costly journey but I'm pretty happy with the results I get now.

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    What Charles said!

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    Jim, just to clarify? You are asking how we regrind/reset bevels/repair bevels...you're not asking about our honing system, correct?

    Anyway, that's how I answered the question so I just put just grinder.

    I guess I could have put multiple since if the bevels on my Japanese chisel need resetting, I will chuck them in a guide grind them on a coarse waterstone or sandpaper, but everything else is a 6" grinder

    Aside from establishing/maintaining a bevel I freehand everything else.
    Last edited by Chris Griggs; 09-12-2013 at 10:44 AM.
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    Another user of what Charles said. Older Tormek, 1700 rpm Baldor 8" and then the planes and chisels get the water stone treatment.

    Clint

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    Multiple Systems w/o Grinder here. In the very rare event that I completely change the geometry of a tool I will borrow dad's grinder during a visit. For the most part the Worksharp 3000 can take care of things like nicks all the way through 3600 grit (I also have a leather hone plate for it that I come back to). After that, stones and/or a 'scary sharp' setup meet my needs.
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    I use an old restored hand crank grinder fitted with a 6" gray wheel for removing edge nicks and setting primary bevels, then switch to scary sharp up to 2000 grit for honing. I do use a honing jig for plane blades, but it is nothing more than a block of maple, a #10 screw and a fender washer. IMO, it works just as good as a fancy-schmancy honing jig that costs big bucks. Chisels ar all honed by hand. I consistently get good, flat mirror-finish backs and sharp micro-bevels on all my tools. The bare patch on my right arm can attest to all of this!

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    All by hand no guides, for better or worse, but if an edge is really messed up (like chipped, rounded or worse- many of my tools have had previous relationships and some didn't look like they were treated very well) then I use a powered grinding. And this is only to get the edge straightened out after that its all hand. I've been looking, not whole heartily, for a hand crank grinder.

    So I answered by hand no guides.
    Last edited by Judson Green; 09-12-2013 at 10:36 AM.

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    Yes, I do use most of those systems on occasion. Where is David I think he has the most sharpening gear. I bought a Tormek a decade or two ago, never have been able to get the results I was looking for, too slow. I have a belt sander, with Trizact, Gator & leather belts that I use when I want to remove metal fast from larger tools/blades. I actually prefer the control of hand sharpening so I just bought a DMT Dia-Flat lapping/grinding plate. I have a selection of Sigma Select II stones from Stu that I am about to update. I have the Veritas jig and one or two older sharpening jigs. IMHO the Syderco triangular ceramic & diamond sharpening system is the easiest and fastest system for most knives, including serrated. There is no check box for peening (striking the edge of a blade against a small anvil to strengthen and thin the edge). Scythe blades are peened to get the very thin sharp edge necessary to cut grass & brush. I don't see a box to check for yes +, so I am abstaining.

    I probably should mention that I maintain 12 acres of woods and fields. I sharpen Sythes, Brush Axes, Hoes, mower/bushhog blades, shovels & trowels, swing blades, a variety of pocket and sheath knives, Kukri, splitting mauls, axes, froes, wedges....Everything from the softer metal in mauls to the very hard 'modern" powdered metals. Ohh, yes I sharpen wood working tools too.
    Last edited by Mike Holbrook; 09-12-2013 at 10:52 AM.

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    Jim, just to clarify? You are asking how we regrind/reset bevels/repair bevels...you're not asking about our honing system, correct?

    Anyway, that's how I answered the question so I just put just grinder.
    Yes, that is correct. My main intent was to learn how many use a standard wheel type grinder hand or powered compared to all the other powered systems or by hand only.

    There is no check box for peening (striking the edge of a blade against a small anvil to strengthen and thin the edge).
    Peening didn't even cross my mind, but that would go into the "by hand only" category if you do not use any power sharpening systems.

    Most of my honing is done by hand but since I do use a powered system other than a grinder I checked off the Worksharp, Veritas or other Disk System.

    This was set up out of my curiosity being piqued by another member mentioning how easy it is to regrind a blade and use micro bevels to change the angle on a BU plane.

    We often share our methods and practices without realizing that what seems natural for ourself may be out of the ordinary for others.

    Often I feel if I can do it so can anyone else. Over the years here I have learned from my errors. We are all individuals with our own abilities and shops that are different from everyone else's.

    Anyway, I would like to thank everyone for participating. I set this poll to not expire. So if you are reading this at some later date, go ahead and answer the poll to best match how you maintain you edges.

    Currently it appears about 50-50 on folks who have vs do not have a grinder.

    jtk
    Last edited by Jim Koepke; 09-12-2013 at 1:29 PM.
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    IF the edge is so bad, then a grinder is used

    If not bad enough for the grinder, then a ride on the beltsander, using the Veritas MkI guide.

    Then without removing the guide, a trip on a dual grit oilstone

    Then sandpaper on a flat surface (kitchen counter top in my case) up to 2K grit

    Then a few swipes on a leather belt, chatged up with some green paste

    Same routine, whether it is a chisel, or an iron from a plane.

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    I put all by hand, no guides as that is how I sharpen 99% of the time.

    I do have a high speed grinder but only use it pretty much to do initial shaping of a really messed up piece of steel (like an old plane blade that had been used for chipping rocks or something - some of them I don't even know...).

    I also have a slow speed friable wheel grinder I use pretty much exclusively for turning tools.. although I hone my skews by hand primarily there as well.

    I also have one of the lee valley chisel/plane honing guide but mostly haven't used it in a few years. Occasionally I'll break it out to cross check my angles while honing but mostly just spot check against an angle gauge nowadays.

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