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    Proper tool for small chamfers?

    What's the best tool choice for 1/8" chamfers, running both with the grain and across the end grain?

    I've got several small blocks to chamfer on all edges. The blocks are about 1.5" x 1.5" x 2" and are made from maple, walnut, and mahogany. I was planning on trying my standard angle block with a DIY fence / angle guide. I'm sure this will be great with the grain, however I've got serious doubts about the ends of the blocks. Also note that my skills with a hand plane are not the best, and I'm having trouble getting a consistent angles and depths with these chamfers (hence the fence idea).

    I've got electrons, and I'm not afraid to use 'em, but I'd rather take this opportunity instead of passing it by. If electrons are the best choice in this situation, well, that's fine too.

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Maiers View Post
    What's the best tool choice for 1/8" chamfers, running both with the grain and across the end grain?

    I've got several small blocks to chamfer on all edges. The blocks are about 1.5" x 1.5" x 2" and are made from maple, walnut, and mahogany. I was planning on trying my standard angle block with a DIY fence / angle guide. I'm sure this will be great with the grain, however I've got serious doubts about the ends of the blocks. Also note that my skills with a hand plane are not the best, and I'm having trouble getting a consistent angles and depths with these chamfers (hence the fence idea).

    I've got electrons, and I'm not afraid to use 'em, but I'd rather take this opportunity instead of passing it by. If electrons are the best choice in this situation, well, that's fine too.

    Thanks!
    For workpieces that small, it's difficult to get a block plane guide to register well enough to really be effective. I have the LV chamfer guide for their low-angle block plane, and it works well for long chamfers, but not so well for short ones. Also, when I've use it on end grain, I come in halfway from each side to avoid spelching, but if I'm not careful I end up with chamfers that are wider at the ends than at the middle. Really, this is the same registration problem. All in all, small chamfers on small blocks, I think your best bet is a sharp chisel and some pencil guidelines if you need them.

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    If you have enough to justify spending the time on a holding device of some kind, and if you need/want consistency, I'd go ahead and make yourself a fixture.

    For something that small, I'd consider a file or even (WARNING: blasphemy ahead) a sanding block. And, when you do the end grain, don't do it across the grain; plane/file/sand long grain but at 45 degrees to the face of the block. Kind of like the tool is diving off the end of the block. You'll get less roughness that way.

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    I use a ``Corner Plane By Peachtree Woodworking PW3242'' --- works fine so long as one minds grain direction.

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    I've had good results using a small (2" long) trim plane.

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    If the blocks are uniform, build a clamping jig to hold them in place.

    Build a "ramp" to guide either a low angle block plane, or my choice - a very sharp chisel.
    I would build something like Chris Knight's version of the Wearing design - with a fixture to clamp pieces down.

    Shooting_Board_5.jpg

    Note the more traditional "Donkey's ear" drawing at the bottom of this page, with simple wedges as holding fixtures.
    I like wedges - nothing to get on about...

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    I built this chamfer plane several years ago. For general chamfering I simply eyeball it with a block plane, however if the chamfer is on show and needs to be exact, this plane does the job.





    Regards from Perth

    Derek

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    Nice chamfer plane you made Derek, I like it.
    Jim
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    Drawknife.

    Not for the faint of heart!

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    If you need to have consistency a modified donkey ear shooting board may be the best route, like Jim Matthews suggests.

    Trim the end grain first. If you have one, use a low angle bevel up plane.

    jtk
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    Thanks everyone. I'm stuck with standard angle planes for now, aside from a low angle block that's giving me fits. I'll try to set this up on the shooting board this weekend. If not having a low angle plane proves to be serious trouble, I'll attempt a DIY chamfer plane (nice work Derek!).

    Hopefully, one of the two of those solutions will get me where I need to go...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Withers View Post
    Drawknife.Not for the faint of heart!
    I vaguely recall someone attaching stair gauges meant for framing squares to limit the
    drawknife blade's side travel? I'm not clear on how well a drawknife cuts endgrain...

    If the blade in your block plane is plenty sharp, you should manage.
    Just ensure that the mouth is so tight as possible, and take a fine shaving.

    A little at a time will get you down to a steady bevel that requires no further finishing.
    Last edited by Jim Matthews; 10-10-2013 at 6:40 PM.

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    Jay, For those tiny pieces with tiny chamfers, I'd lay a sheet of 150 grit on the bench and pass the blocks back and forth. It'll be quick work. I find it easier and safer to move the piece over the tool when it gets small like that. A couple peeks en route and you'll have it where you need it to be in no time. Out of curiosity, what are all these tiny blocks for? Baby blocks with letters and numbers? Bill

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    I had to address the same issue some time ago - square chamfered ebony pegs.

    The first few, I scribed layout lines around the ends and sides, and used a sharp block plane. Pretty soon, I had the hang of it, and just plowed ahead.

    It really is easy, and very fast, with the block plane - you can always do some trial runs on scrap pieces.
    When I started woodworking, I didn't know squat. I have progressed in 30 years - now I do know squat.

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    Jim, chamfer guides for drawknives do indeed look like stair gauges for framing squares, and might even be interchangeable. I'm pretty new to drawknives, but I'd rather use a sharp one on end grain than any plane I own! (My only BU planes are a Stanley 220 and LN 140 I'm still figuring out, so maybe BU bench planes work better).

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