I built my garage in 2007 and when had the garage doorinstalled the installer put in a opener I got from a borg store. was a WayneDalton I drive opener. installer was like man, take it back because its pos. well Iliked the idea of having the opener on the wall and out of way so had himinstall it. it lasted 6 years but only cause not open door thatmuch, maybe average 2 or 3 times week. Now I get to change it out. Only bright side is that I did install outlet in area where needs to be for the traditional style opener.