The shop I volunteer at just bought a sander that uses 4x24 belts. Coincidentally we had some belts way-way-way in the back of the supply closet that had been there "awhile". Ran through half a dozen belts in 5 minutes! All pulled apart at the seam. Guess that 20 year old adhesive loses its grip after awhile! Time to call Klingspor for some belts I guess!