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I need to get some Teak from Ohio, to North-central Wisconsin.
I'm considering hauling it myself.
I have a F150 Ford truck, and a 16 foot, dual axle trailer.
My trailer measures 15.5 feet x 6 feet wide, and 4 feet high.
The Teak to be hauled is listed as 16 cbm (As in Cubic Meters).
Can I haul that much teak in 2 trips with my truck and trailer?
I'm struggling converting the 16 CBM to Board feet accuratly, as well as what to expect weight wise.
It's kiln dry to 8%
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Here's a chart of weight of different woods (see below). If you take teak at about 900 Kg per cubic meter, you can calculate the weight of the whole load and see if your truck/trailer can take half a load.
To get the size of your truck/trailer, convert the dimensions to meters and calculate the volume in cubic meters. If you truck/trailer has a capacity of 8 cubic meters, and can take the weight, you can haul it. Of course, you have to also take into account the length of the wood and see if you can carry that length.
Mike
Wood Substance kg/m3 lbs/ft3 Apple 825 52 Ash 850 53 Balsa 125 8 Bamboo 400 25 Cedar 550 34 Ebony 1,200 75 Lignum-vitae 1,325 83 Mahogany 650 41 Oak 900 56 Pine, white 500 31 Pine, yellow 600 37 Teak, Indian 875 55 Teak, African 975 61 Willow 600 37 Note: These figures are for seasoned wood only. Green wood will be substantially heavier due to its water content.
Wood heavier than 1,000 kg/m3 will not float in water.
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There are about 35 cubic feet in a cubic meter and 12 board feet in a cubic foot. This equates to 420 bd ft per cubic meter. 16 cubic meters is over 6700 bd feet. That is a lot of teak.
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Not in one load. I have a F150, thats too much especially considering that you will have to drive through the Chicago area. Even with two loads you are right on the edge of what I would haul, and not through the Chicago rats nest.
Three loads would be safer. Rent a truck.
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This would be a job for a rental.
Any damage to your ride must be considered
as part of the cost. Rent something bigger
than you need, with a ramp.
Get insurance.
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how much would some sort of uhaul be to rent? and make 1 trip, save you time and gas...
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Using the math from mike and James, that puts you at potentially 34,058 pounds. Considering you have a pickup and trailer contributing around 10,000 pounds, this will put your gross vehicle weight at around 45,000. That's more than half of a fully loaded semi, which uses a heck of a lot more tires and more importantly, brakes. Your trailer also has a weight limit on the axles. 5000 and 7000 pound axles are common, times two give you a design limitation. Tires have a rating too, they are likely close to the axle rating. Your trailer was designed to operate of the axle rating weight. It is likely a car trailer, so a safe calculation is 10,000 max capacity load on the trailer.
Now, the department of transportation makes big bucks fining overloaded vehicles. It's good because they cannot safely stop often. You will be driving on some of the most regulated roads in America. I don't know what the rules there are, here I could haul 10,000 pounds tops without increasing my pickup licensing limits.
Further, a half ton pickup's duty cycle is not designed to haul at max capacity nonstop for a thousand miles. The vehicle designed for that load is a twin drive axle flatbed truck or a small semi. Or three loads at least with your pickup.
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Half that load is more than I haul with my HD 2500 Chevy and gooseneck cow trailer. And the transmission heats up when I am pulling it. For 15 miles. Agree, get a rental, or hire someone to haul it.
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You need to know the GCWR of your truck (between 10,000 and perhaps as much as 15,500 for a F150), the GVWR of your trailer, and the weight of your truck and trailer. Add the weight of the truck and trailer, passengers, fuel, and anything else you're carrying and subtract it from the GCWR of the truck to yield your potential payload. You can split the payload between truck and trailer perhaps, you need to not exceed the GVWR of either. Finally you need to not exceed the capacity of your trailer hitch either in terms of total weight or tongue weight.
According to the chart above you've got about 32,000 pounds of teak (900 Kg/m^2 x 2.2 lbs/kg x 16 m^2), so you're talking at least four trips fully loaded. Unless you have a CDL you will need two trips in the biggest rental truck you can drive on a regular license.
I'vd be looking at getting a truck freight company to bring it to you. It may well be less expensive than the DIY option.
That is a *lot* of teak!
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Does anyone have any info on that?
I'd love to do it in one trip, but is there a uHaul or similar large enough to do it in one trip, that someone's aware of?
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You need a CDL to drive a vehicle over 26,000 lbs., you can't rent a bigger truck without a CDL. That puts you at two trips at least. If you can afford over $100K of lumber at one go surely you can afford the kilobuck or two to have someone truck it safely for you! Go to one of the online sites like freightquote.com to get an idea of what the shipping charges would be.
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Freightquote is telling me $1,800.00
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Which might still be worthwhile.
Did you try UShip?
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No, not without a CDL. Budget, UHaul, Penske and whoever else won't rent anything over 26k GCWR to you unless you have a CDL. If you do have a CDL, you can rent anything you can drive. (See Ryder, they rent Class 8 tractors and straight trucks.)
That said, if the load is 16 cubic meters, I'd farm it out. A load of that size needs to be properly secured. The # of questions being asked indicates that you don't have the experience in securing loads that would be necessary to do so safely. (Note, neither do I, and I drove Over The Road for a while. But I didn't drive a flatbed....)
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Can't they give you any length info? That willl be important info to have to determine if your F150 will be able to haul any or just pull the trailer. Lets say you load it alll on the trailer. Hypothetical loading of trailer - 1 meter across and 1 meter vertical and 4 meters long means 4 trips.
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