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    CA finish and Polish - A must?

    New tothis turning thing and starting with a few pens. I put on a CA finish anddo the MicroMesh thing to 12000 grit and it looks super.

    The question: Do I have to put a polish over this or not? It seems likethe polish actually dulls the finish. I have tried Doctor's Woodshop PensPlus, One-Step and Stick Fast satin/gloss. They all seem to make theblanks less shinny.

    Thanks,
    JimE


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    There are not many rules on polish, some things just work better than others... The finishes you mention are often used on naked wood, not over CA. I initially used a plastic polish after 12K micromesh, but didn't see that it did much good, so I don't use it anymore, just dry micromesh up to 12K and stop. Some folks use micromesh wet, but I don't 'cause I don't like water all over the ways.

    With many things in turning, the big divide is between safe practices v. not safe practices; within "safe" it is often a matter of "which pew in which church you choose to sit".... find something that works for you and you are comfortable with...
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    For a CA finish, you could finish with a scratch remover compound and buffing wheel.

    I polish my CA pens using the acrylic pen buffing system from Arizona Silhouette (Barry Gross) and it works great. http://www.arizonasilhouette.com/product/BG012.html

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    My personal experience is that it is unnecessary and often detrimental to follow Micromesh 12000 with anything else. The only exception would be Novus 2 polish, but only IF it is applied with a cotton ball and wiped clean with a cotton ball. A paper towel is like sandpaper and even fine cotton cloth is still too abrasive.
    Bill

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Boehme View Post
    My personal experience is that it is unnecessary and often detrimental to follow Micromesh 12000 with anything else. The only exception would be Novus 2 polish, but only IF it is applied with a cotton ball and wiped clean with a cotton ball. A paper towel is like sandpaper and even fine cotton cloth is still too abrasive.
    Bill,

    Maybe that is my problem. The paper towel??

    JimE

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    Jim, sometimes with the MM I will have very fine scratches that I will buff out by using Tripoli with the Beall Buffing system. This is a very light touch on the buffing wheel. If you push too hard, you will dull the finish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Eller View Post
    Bill,

    Maybe that is my problem. The paper towel??

    JimE

    I believe using a acrylic polish is a good thing after Micromesh. I use Micro Finish polish. It is designed for acrylics. Some people use auto polishes. But you have to be carefull because thy have grit in them.

    Paper towels are important. To apply CA I use the blue shop towels from Walmart auto dept. For polishes I use Viva cotton soft. Some people use a buffing wheel system. have to watch out for flying objects when using them. I do not like that. Hate to work on a pen for hours and have it launched in a matter of milli-seconds.
    John T.

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    John, when I us the buffing wheel, I have the tubes on a pen mandrel and with the nylon bushings. No flying parts that way:-D

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    For what its worth, Cap'n Eddie uses something like Turtle Wax on a CA finish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Doerr View Post
    John, when I us the buffing wheel, I have the tubes on a pen mandrel and with the nylon bushings. No flying parts that way:-D
    I am glad you have a method but I would not use the mandrel. Chance of bending could add problems down the road. I do my buffing right after the MM and it works for me.
    John T.

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    I think I will try the cottonball thing next time on one half to see how it compares to just ending with 12000 MM.

    Thanks to all. JimE

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    Sanding a pen after the application of CA is a real pain. Here is a method that requires no sanding. Developed by Bill Young and his short video has been watched 50,000 times. Lots of happy campers with this technique. I have used this method for all my pens and it works great. I hope it will work for you.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=orcgOf4siqc

    Peter F.

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    A lot of polishes look great until you look at the results critically in bright sunlight. The most important thing to keep in mind when using Micromesh is to follow the same rule that you follow when using regular sandpaper: Remove all scratches from the previous grit before advancing to the next finer grit. If you don't do that, you'll never achieve a scratch-free finish.

    Concerning auto polishes, most contain various formulations of waxes that typically includes carnauba. Wax hides scratches, but they are still there and I don't care to write with a slippery pen.
    Bill

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Boehme View Post
    A lot of polishes look great until you look at the results critically in bright sunlight. The most important thing to keep in mind when using Micromesh is to follow the same rule that you follow when using regular sandpaper: Remove all scratches from the previous grit before advancing to the next finer grit. If you don't do that, you'll never achieve a scratch-free finish.

    Concerning auto polishes, most contain various formulations of waxes that typically includes carnauba. Wax hides scratches, but they are still there and I don't care to write with a slippery pen.
    Bill,

    I do as you indicated and go through each MM grit and am astonished by the shine in any light. I wet sand by using a little glue bottle of water and towels or paper over the lathe bed. Never tried using them dry. Thanks. JimE

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    I use a product called PlastiX which is an automotive product used for headlights. I have never had an issue with it on my pens.

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