I skipped the 8" jointer, and went with the 12". Would have liked a 16", but price kept me back. Also have a 15" planer, would have gladly gone with 20", but the 15" is half the money. And the 15" is a very good planer. If a used 20", good grade planer shows up near me, will try to buy it. Missed one a few months ago, dangit.