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    Red sail x700 power dropped by half

    My nearly new red sail x700 50watt laser went from 62watts at the tube a few days ago to 31watts today. I have only used it a few minutes since it was reading 62watts. It seems like it did it from the last time I used it til today. It is running off a 120v to 240 volt step up converter. Any ideas?

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    If a 50 watt tube (that in reality is a high gain 40-45) is putting out 62 watts then it's being over driven by a large percentage. What current is it set to?
    You did what !

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    I didn't see a current sitting on the menu and I didn't see an adjustment on the power supply. what should it be amd how do I check it and change it if need be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jarrod lineberry View Post
    I didn't see a current sitting on the menu and I didn't see an adjustment on the power supply. what should it be amd how do I check it and change it if need be?
    Current is a meter reading on either your installed mA (milliamp) meter or one you use to measure the current to the tube.
    Even my low cost G.Wieke laser had one. It can be checked with a portable meter, but since your dealing with 20,000 volts or so I will let someone else do the instructing.
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    I have a DC clamp meter. Do you think that might work?

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    Could it be in the controller? The reason I am asking it because I was engraving a test picture on a piece of tile the last time it was working properly. A few seconds after the engraving started, the display went blank. The engraving continued until the job was finished and after it finished the screen reset and came up in chinese. Luckily I remembered where the menu was to change language and switched it back. It did this twice when I tried to engrave a picture. Is it possible something caused it to default to a really low power setting in the controller when it reset the language and presumably restored everything to default. It has the rdlc320-a controller.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jarrod lineberry View Post
    I have a DC clamp meter. Do you think that might work?

    If it scales down to milliamp readings it will work.

    Don't use it on the high voltage wire (usually red) on the back side of the tube.

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    DC clamp meter didn't work. I used my regular meter on the ground side of the tube and it was only 8mA. Any idea where to go from here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jarrod lineberry View Post
    DC clamp meter didn't work. I used my regular meter on the ground side of the tube and it was only 8mA. Any idea where to go from here?
    LightObject dot com carries this one > http://www.lightobject.com/DC-0-100m...eter-P242.aspx

    Remember it goes in the Neg. high voltage lead from the tube. Remember also if you get between the ground wire from the tube to the ground provided you will be in Series with about 20,000 volts DC. The meter goes there, not your hands.
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    Thanks I need to get one of those meters. Anybody know if you can jump the power supply to get it to fire at.100% to see if the problem is with the supply or the controller?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jarrod lineberry View Post
    Thanks I need to get one of those meters. Anybody know if you can jump the power supply to get it to fire at.100% to see if the problem is with the supply or the controller?
    What kind of controller ?

    Make sure you keep your min and max power settings set at the same levels for testing. It will make a difference in how the controller and power supply interact with each other.
    It appears to me that when the min setting is lower than the max, power at the tube is lower as an average. I have been playing with that for a couple of days trying to
    figure out how that works but the farther the 2 settings are apart from each other the lower the output power is to the tube. Dunno why yet.

    Gozzie
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    1 Straight Edge
    1 Hammer
    1 Dull Chisel
    1 Pencil Sharpener (manually operated)

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    Rdlc320-a. I will give that a try, now it is set at 98%max and 6%min. It worked fine before, but something happened when it reset back to Chinese language.

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    Have a look for the test button on the Tube PSU, you also need to disconnect the line from the machine card then press the test button if it has one
    You did what !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Sheldrake View Post
    you also need to disconnect the line from the machine card then press the test button if it has one
    Are you talking about a wire that goes from the controller to the laser psu?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jarrod lineberry View Post
    Are you talking about a wire that goes from the controller to the laser psu?
    yup, thats the one
    You did what !

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