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    Help me decide: why do I need a Brace?

    ..... other than the fact that Braces are just plain "cool", or just to let myself fall further down the slippery Neader slope.

    Background. The thread on Yankee Braces caught my eye and I didnt want to hijack it with this question. I have a decent drill press and an electric drill. I'm wondering what benefits I'd get by adding a Brace to my shop? Is it like handsaws and hand planes, where using a Brace is just plain easier or better for some kinds of work?

    I'd appreciate hearing your thoughts.

    Thanks guys.
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    Because you can use auger bits with it. It's not practical to always put a piece on the drill press, the auger but allows you to cut an accurately angled or 90 degree hole by hand.
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    Well, coolness does count for most....

    But, small bits in eggbeater drills are just easier for me to handle straighter drill holes, though backing out the bit is sometimes awkward. Braces are great for straight bits, brad point bits, and augers; but they excel at the larger size twist bits (where I have trouble chucking (or paying the price for) the bigger bit sizes. A quality old brace + a complete set 4-16 (in 16ths) of twist bits is awesome. Now, my friend Scott swears by these twist bits, to the degree, that he cut off the bottom chuck flanges and uses them with his hammer drill. (Oh, the travesty!)

    OTOH, there's little need for a brace/bit if you've already got power drills. There's a great story, however, here: my son-in-law wanted to drill a hole into the back of his gorgeous office desk (feaux wood) to allow multiple power cords to support his computer. After purchasing a very reasonably priced, single Forestner bit from Woodcraft, he chucked it into his 12v Ryobi drill. I smiled, then warned him that the drill wouldn't drive that much metal (1 1/2 bit) into wood or mdf. Sure enough, it stalled at one twist. Thankfully, I had given him a quality Stanley 10" brace, which he grabbed. It drove that bit beautifully through; we even finished from the bottom to leave a clean hole. He's a believer, now!

    The bigger the bit, the harder the strain to work the brace. That's why 12" and 14" braces abound. Oh, a joke--what do you call a 16" brace? A bit buster!

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    Frederick,

    You do not 'need' a brace.

    A brace is handy for a portable bit driver. Many of the later models including the 2101 have the ability to be used with straight bits. A few of my longer twist drill bits, aka 'bell hanger' bits, are often driven by a brace when drilling deep holes.

    There are various tools made for use with a brace such as; hollow augers, dowel pointers, reamers and screw driver bits.

    I have seen them anywhere from a couple of bucks on up. Not a big investment, but a worthy one.

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    Thanks guys. Sounds like I can make good use of one.

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    I drill anything over 3/4" with a bit and brace. Faster, and more efficient. Besides, they are mucho cool.
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    ^^^ What Paul said, and it makes a clean bore on the inside with no tear out around the hole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frederick Skelly View Post
    Thanks guys. Sounds like I can make good use of one.

    ..... off to the antique mall
    Jim mentioned some of the things you can do with a brace besides just make holes. I recently bought a spoke pointer and hollow auger, and I'm still thinking of all the things I may do with them. He also mentioned screwdriver bits, which may not sound like that big a deal -- why not just use a screwdriver? Well, you can get a lot of torque with a brace. Put a screwdriver bit in it, and you can break loose tough screws that you'd never budge with a screwdriver or with a screwdriver bit in an electric hand drill.

    My complement of hand drills includes a Millers Falls push drill for the smallest work up to about 1/8"; a Millers Falls No. 38 egg-beater style that I use with ordinary round-shank bits, mostly twist bits, from 1/8" and smaller, up to around 3/8" or so, maybe occasionally 1/2"; two Millers Falls Lion braces and a Lion brace that Millers Falls made for Craftsman, all 10" sweep, that I use from about 1/4" to 1"; and a Millers Falls No. 210 hand operated drill press that I use for larger bits and when I need more precision. (Detect a pattern there? I'm partial to Millers Falls because they made great products, and their top-of-the-line braces and push drills can be had for quite a bit less than the top-of-the-line Stanley or Northern Bros braces. They're probably best known, however, for their egg-beaters. A complete list of their drills is at oldtoolheaven.com. Well, almost complete. Doesn't cover their drill presses.)

    Why three braces of the same size? I used to keep an 8" brace, a 10" brace, and a 12" brace, and that's not a bad idea, but I found myself always reaching for the 10" first. At the same time, it's handy to have at least two braces. For example, you can put an auger bit in one and a countersink bit in the other so you can drill multiple countersunk holes without having to change bits twice for every hole. I probably don't need three, and maybe I'll eventually get rid of one of them (I'm not one to keep tools I don't use), but for now that's what I have.

    Note: I could almost do without an egg-beater. The push drill goes up to 1/8" and you can find 3/16" auger bits for a brace, and even smaller twist bits, so you can probably close that gap in size, but a push drill isn't great for drilling really hard wood or deeper holes, so I sometimes use the egg-beater for 1/8" and even smaller.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Holcombe View Post
    Because you can use auger bits with it. It's not practical to always put a piece on the drill press, the auger but allows you to cut an accurately angled or 90 degree hole by hand.

    Yep, and also, the best thing about auger bits is how easy they are to sharpen. If you have a straight auger bit in good condition, that hasn't been manhandled or idiotically sharpened by a previous owner, you will be able to use it for the rest of your life, without ever having to send it out for sharpening.
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    Excellent point. I bought a complete set, but found the condition to be on the poor side still I was able to restore all of them into good working condition with a few good auger files.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Holcombe View Post
    Excellent point. I bought a complete set, but found the condition to be on the poor side still I was able to restore all of them into good working condition with a few good auger files.
    I think it would be most helpful for someone to post a short tutorial on sharpening auger bits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paul cottingham View Post
    I think it would be most helpful for someone to post a short tutorial on sharpening auger bits.
    Paul,

    Ask and yee shall receive here are two:

    http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthre...le-Sweep-Brace

    http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthre...t-About-Augers

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    A brace with a proper bit is the nicest way to drive screws. Fast and quiet. -Howard

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    The real reason for you to get a brace is that you don't have one. Everyone knows we need at least one of each kind of tool there is.

    Actually, I have three braces, including a Bell Systems brace.
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