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    Large format lasers KERN

    Other than Kern, what are large format systems are worth looking at? I love the sheer mass of the Kern systems but the usability is pretty horrible from what I've heard.

    I also stumbled across LaserPhotonics, who create some CRAZY fast machines (albeit smaller)
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    Might want take look at Eurolasers for large format.
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    I've known a few people who either owned or operated Kern machines and they were unanimous in their praise of the equipment. I can't say I've ever heard a negative remark about them.
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    Yeah the only complaint I heard was that there are too many settings which makes it pretty difficult to use (compared to epilog or trotec).

    I also just spoke with a guy from Laser Photonics. They make the insanely fast machine in this video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_7rMrLeB-E. Not cheap but damn, I gotta try one of those.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Selway View Post
    Yeah the only complaint I heard was that there are too many settings which makes it pretty difficult to use (compared to epilog or trotec).

    I also just spoke with a guy from Laser Photonics. They make the insanely fast machine in this video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_7rMrLeB-E. Not cheap but damn, I gotta try one of those.

    That's a galvo system... completely different monster than a carriage system.
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    The Kern lasers are amazing machines capable of cutting metal if you have the need.

    Trotec also has a new large bed laser, the SP300, here is the link to the YouTube video.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EU0...em-subs_digest

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Selway View Post
    I love the sheer mass of the Kern systems but the usability is pretty horrible from what I've heard.
    I've never heard anything remotely like that from anyone. If I were to buy a large format tomorrow, it would be a Kern, without question. Outstanding company, outstanding product, outstanding people (the ones I have met).
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    Yes, the Kern control software has more controls than Trotec, Universal, and Epilog. Start delay (pierce) and power ramping / speed on corners are two of them. They are there to help make your parts just a little bit better and if they are not set correctly they can also make your life miserable. Is this a fault with the Kern? Not even remotely, it's just a more sophisticated control system for advanced applications and a more informed user.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Hilliard View Post
    Yes, the Kern control software has more controls than Trotec, Universal, and Epilog. Start delay (pierce) and power ramping / speed on corners are two of them. They are there to help make your parts just a little bit better and if they are not set correctly they can also make your life miserable. Is this a fault with the Kern? Not even remotely, it's just a more sophisticated control system for advanced applications and a more informed user.
    Very well said!! I love my Kern and see it as a major advantage in my shop. There is a learning curve compared to just hitting print, but if you're looking at a system like this you aren't looking to just hit print. For different materials you have to be able to control cutting and engraving beyond a standard set of pre loaded settings.
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