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    Question what type of Nema 23 motor + driver is recommended for a laser/engraver

    Hi!

    I am in progress of building my own co2 laser engraver/cutter.
    I do have a complete rails set and mirrormounts, laserhead.
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    So I need to find som nema 23 motors. Since the kit has 57mm mounts
    I have searched and there are soo many different kind om nema 23 motors.
    I will also need a spu for these also.

    Any tips?

    Yes, I know I need to get
    Cooling parts
    Assist air system
    Exhaust blower
    Cable carriers
    Optics
    Lasertube + psu
    DSP system (RD6442S or AWC 708 lite?) Is RD6442S better ?
    Frame of aluminum extrusion 2020 and 2040
    and so on

    Yeah, any tips for the above parts also are appreciated

    Thanks for reading and for the tips

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    I would suggest you go to CNCZone and browse around there. They have forums setup specifically to discuss scratch-built lasers, and everything else cnc as well. The combination of motor, driver and power supply are critical to good results and you'll likely be better off buying a package set that is known to a) work well together, and b) be appropriate for the size, speed, etc., of your setup.

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    Personaly I like the TB6560 single axis boards. They are modular low cost and quite flexable. Seach ebay for TB6560 3A driver board. You will probably get change from 10 bucks. I have used them in my project and found them solid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary Hair View Post
    I would suggest you go to CNCZone and browse around there. They have forums setup specifically to discuss scratch-built lasers, and everything else cnc as well. The combination of motor, driver and power supply are critical to good results and you'll likely be better off buying a package set that is known to a) work well together, and b) be appropriate for the size, speed, etc., of your setup.

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    Am I the only one who thinks NEMA23's are overkill for this application? Especially for the X-axis, since it just adds extra weight that the Y-axis drive has to handle. I used 23s on my CNC router, but the moving bits there were measured in kilograms, not ounces.

    Reference point: my ULS uses NEMA17's for X/Y. There is a NEMA23 on the Z-axis, but that one has to be able to lift the full weight of the table plus whatever you're engraving. Then again, with the low-pitch lead screws they used, it could probably hoist the whole machine into the air.
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    Lee is right that you should plan on using a lighter motor on the x axis, say a nema 17 which is in every 3d printer.

    The Nema 23 motor that matches that controller well using 24 volts that I have used is Act motor 23HS8630. This could do your Z and Y axis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Colson View Post
    Lee is right that you should plan on using a lighter motor on the x axis, say a nema 17 which is in every 3d printer.

    The Nema 23 motor that matches that controller well using 24 volts that I have used is Act motor 23HS8630. This could do your Z and Y axis.
    The thing about the Y-axis on a laser is that it really doesn't require any more torque than the X-axis. It's moving more mass than the X-axis, but it never has to accelerate very quickly: it's either moving a very small distance (raster) or at a relatively low speed (vector).
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    You can also search for usbcnc on ebay which will give a lot more options for cheap controllers and DIY laser kits if you need some more ideas. Some of the controllers have their own drivers for laser printing or use Mach3.
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    Thanks for the inputs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Colson View Post
    Lee is right that you should plan on using a lighter motor on the x axis, say a nema 17 which is in every 3d printer.

    The Nema 23 motor that matches that controller well using 24 volts that I have used is Act motor 23HS8630. This could do your Z and Y axis.
    I found this on 23HS8630 + driver and psu. Will this do as for x and y? And I will get an motor for z table
    Last edited by Inge Palmar; 11-15-2015 at 5:23 AM.

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    The specs look fine for x and y. Personally I would use a lighter motor for x. Those motors are 76mm long. You can get a 41mm for x.
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    Yeah..maby an 41mm for z table also.
    Thanks

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    I went through all this about 16 months ago, was going to make my own laser engraver and had a lot of parts accumulated. Then I remembered all the little DIY build projects I had did before. Realizing when I got done with I would be lucky to get 25% of the money I had spent for parts, and would get nothing for my labor. Lucky for me a lot of the venders took the parts back and gave me credit. I then purchased a simple 40 watt Chinese machine, (Not a K40 ) and used that for a year. I had the fun of debugging it and making it run like it should. When I found a used / rebuilt older USL laser engraver I purchased and sold the first machine for maybe a 20% loss over what I paid.
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    Bill! Great..
    I think when this laser machine is completed, it will be better than bying an complete chinese laser engraver/cutter for 2000usd
    Anyway, while building, I will learn more about the machine etc..

    Will theese ebay optics do well?
    3 pcs SI mirrors 25mm and 1 pcs CVD Znse focus lens 50.8mm/2"
    Last edited by Inge Palmar; 11-16-2015 at 12:40 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inge Palmar View Post
    Bill! Great..
    I think when this laser machine is completed, it will be better than bying an complete chinese laser engraver/cutter for 2000usd
    Anyway, while building, I will learn more about the machine etc..

    Will theese ebay optics do well?
    3 pcs SI mirrors 25mm and 1 pcs CVD Znse focus lens 50.8mm/2"
    Well I purchased a lot of my parts from lightobject dot com , good quality stuff and he knows what you are doing and can help set you in the right direction. You do not want Mach 3 anything for a laser controller. Its great for CNC to a point, but for laser work you need both vector and raster capabilities. BTW you will have well over 2000 USD in your project that is one reason I stopped mine.
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