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Thread: Installed ammeter and damaged a circuit board on my chinese laser

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    Installed ammeter and damaged a circuit board on my chinese laser

    Hi there I installed IMAG1371.jpg on my so called 50watt laser as I over cooked the tube, so while waiting for the new one I followed instructions from lensdigital.com. I thought that I removed all the metal shaving from IMAG1369.jpg unfortunately I didnt look close enough and left filing inside which caused IMAG1367.jpg IMAG1368.jpg there was sparked coming from the unit and it shut the house power down. So not sure what else this unit would have damaged. Would it be possible to fix this or should I purchase another one and if so what is the name of the unit? I am defiantly a newbie so all help appreciated. regards Stuart

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    Not worth messing with Stu, dump the small low voltage PSU and get a new one.

    Is the machine an SH350? if so I think a couple of the guys here have them and I certainly know others that do. The power supply type is marked on a sticker usually.
    You did what !

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    On the side of the unit it has CL-B-150-LB (AC Input 220V 50HZ - DC Output V1:24V 6A, V2:5V 2A) Can I go Higher with the DC amp output,would D-150B be suitable?IMAG1374.jpgIMAG1376.jpg.Regards Stuart
    Model
    D-150A
    D-150B
    D-150C
    Output
    DC Voltage
    5V
    12V
    5V
    24V
    12V
    24V
    Rated current
    12A
    7.5A
    10A
    4A
    8A
    2
    Current Range
    0.5~12A
    0.1~7.5A
    0.5~10A
    0.1~4A
    0.5~8A
    0.1~2A
    Rated Power
    150W
    146W
    144W
    RIPPLE & NOISE (max.) Note.2
    60mVp-p
    120mVp-p
    60mVp-p
    150mVp-p
    60mVp-p
    150mVp-p
    VOLTAGE ADJ. RANGE
    CH1:4.75~5.5V
    CH1:4.75~5.5V
    CH1:4.75~5.5V
    VOLTAGE TOLERANCE Note.3
    ±2%
    ±6%
    ±2%
    ±5%
    ±2%
    ±5%
    Line regulation
    ±0.5%
    ±1.0%
    ±0.5%
    ±1.0%
    ±0.5%
    ±1.0%
    Load regulation
    ±0.5%
    ±5.0%
    ±0.5%
    ±6.0%
    ±0.5%
    ±6.0%
    Setup, Rise, Hold Time
    200ms, 100ms, 30ms at full load
    Input
    Voltage Range
    85-132VAC/170-264VAC 47-63Hz; Selected by switch 240-370VDC
    Frequency range
    47-63Hz
    AC Current
    2.5A/115V 1.25A/230V
    Efficiency
    78%
    80%
    80%
    Inrush Current
    Cold start 15A/115VAC 30A/230VAC
    Leakage Current
    Less than 3.5mA/240VAC
    Protection
    Over Load
    105 ~ 150% rated output power
    Protection type : Fold back current limiting, recovers automatically after fault condition is removed.
    Environment
    Working Temp., Humidity
    -10 °C- +60 °C; 20%-90% RH
    Storage Temp., Humidity
    -20 °C- +85 °C;10%-95 RH
    Vibration
    10-500Hz,2G 10min./1cycle, period for 60 min, each along X, Y, Z axes
    Safety
    Withstand Voltage
    I/P-O/P:3KVAC I/P-FG:1.5KVAC O/P-FG:0.5KVAC
    Isolation Resistance
    I/P-O/P, I/P-FG, O/P-FG: 100M Ohms/500VDC
    Standard
    Safety Standard
    Design refer to UL1012
    EMC Standard
    Design refer to FCC Part15 J Conduction Class B
    Others
    Weight
    0.85Kg
    Dimensions
    199*110*50mm(L*W*H)
    NOTE
    1. All parameters NOT specially mentioned are measured at 230VAC input, rated load and 25 of ambient temperature.2. Ripple & noise are measured at 20MHz of bandwidth by using a 12" twisted pair-wire terminated with a 0.1uf & 47uf parallel capacitor.3. Tolerance : includes set up tolerance, line regulation and load regulation.
    Last edited by StuartW Wilson; 01-16-2016 at 5:18 AM.

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    did you check the fuse

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    Where is the fuse located? I have a 60w gweike and lost power to the x,y and z axis. The mother board has lights flashing and the main psu has no lights on but the fan on it works. Does the main psu provide power to the low voltage psu or just to the laser tube? Thanks and I hope this makes sense!

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    The big PSU supplies the tube, the smaller one in the picture supplies the driver cards,motors and mainboard usually (not always from one psu though, some machines have up to 4)
    You did what !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Sheldrake View Post
    The big PSU supplies the tube, the smaller one in the picture supplies the driver cards,motors and mainboard usually (not always from one psu though, some machines have up to 4)
    Thanks Dave

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    I just installed an amp meter also, and I didn't want to cut holes in my machine so I Laser Tube.jpg and ran the wires out the vent cover you see behind the tube and up toAmp Meter.jpgthe meter which I built a box for and used Velcro to hole it in place on top of my laser. Its a much shorter run and the meter is much easier to see when the machine is running.
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    In the picture of the supply there is a fuse right by the terminal strip

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    fuse.jpgI think here.




    Quote Originally Posted by Jerome Stanek View Post
    In the picture of the supply there is a fuse right by the terminal strip
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    Thanks Jerome

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    Good luck gentlemen! --

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    Thanks Bert

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    I am trying to understand the dc output is it set to DC Output V1:24V 6A, V2:5V 2A) or is this the max amp output for the unit? If so can I use a unit that can deliver higher amp which wil only be used to what is required by the machine? regards Stuart

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    Quote Originally Posted by StuartW Wilson View Post
    I am trying to understand the dc output is it set to DC Output V1:24V 6A, V2:5V 2A) or is this the max amp output for the unit? If so can I use a unit that can deliver higher amp which wil only be used to what is required by the machine? regards Stuart
    To keep things simple I would put in the exact same one, because the other one did not fail because of use or being overloaded.
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