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    Symposium Report (LONG)

    Greetings all

    I just arrived home this morning from the Totally Turning weekend up in Albany, and am catching up on the pile of email and such waiting for me. Since I am here at the machine, I thought it would be a good time to report on my experience at the symposium. I would like to preface my remarks that what I am about to write adds to my previous experiences. It does not negate them. I write that because things I have experienced in the past duing my interactions with certain people and groups have been, shall we say, less than positive, and I have been very vocal about that. This one was different, and I intend to be just as vocal.

    Simply put, I had a blast. I got to meet a lot of people, see a lot of turnings, and even learnt a thing or two. It was a little disconcerting to have a continual stream of people coming up to me who I had never seen before in my life and calling me by name, but I got used to it after a little while. If you are one of those folks who did so, I would like to thank you again for stepping up and introducing yourselves, and I thank you for all the kind and positive things you all had to say about the DVD. For the record no one said anything negative about the DVD, and that is a good thing too.

    I got to see some friends of mine I hadn't seen for a while, as well as a number of past students. It would have been nice to see some of them bringing work along for the instant gallery, but that is a personal decision. I will write more about the gallery in a bit. I got to meet some people who I only knew through this medium, by their postings and their pictures. With some there was some private correspondence as well, but in all cases, it was great to be able to put a face and a voice with the name. I got to meet some really big shots in the AAW - at least people who are very well known. I was quite surprised to learn that most of them already knew who I was as well. I don't know if that is a good or a bad thing. A number of people asked me if I was having a good time, as if I was some sort of guest as a special resort and they were all employees. I can't help but think that those inquiries were a result of past postings on my part. I know that at least some of them were, since the questioners sometimes referred to them.

    I had a running conversation for much of the weekend with Andi Wolfe. She came up and introduced herself to me with a nice big smile, and then delivered a well deserved shot about artsy fartsy stuff, which got the conversation going. We got to clarify a few things, and overall have a very pleasant time together. I even made it to one of her rotations, although I will have to speak to the organizers next year about how they schedule those things. They need to make sure that the ones I want to go to don't take place simultaneously! But Andi and I got to talk about turning in general, art, attitudes and experiences, and all that goes along with it. While I cannot speak for her with any authority, I know I left with a better understanding of some of the art aspect, and I think she understands my perspective a little more.

    The instant gallery was crammed with very good work at all levels of quality. I write it that way because people brought in stuff that was the best they could do, and that is what counts. It does not matter where a person is in their development as a turner, but it does matter that they are turning and developing. I heard a lot of people saying that they didn't want to bring something in because they would be embarassed in some way, and I do not think that would have been the case. Andi and Stuart Batty did an extensive critique of many of the pieces brought in, and they did a fantastic job I think. Of course that is easy enough for me to write. All three of my pieces came up for examination, and with a very few minor points, I got what I consider to be very high praise indeed. How did it affect me? Well let's just say I had to go down to the parking deck in the freight elevator so my head would fit in the doors. Overall, they found positive and encouraging things to say about every piece that was held up, although I do not think that anyone got away completely unscathed. But that is what a critique is supposed to do, right?

    I spent a lot more money than I had intended, although I did keep my promise to SWMBO not to buy any wood. I never said a word about tools though, and I came home with a monster spur center for my Talon, a keyless chuck, and a random orbit air powered sander with 2" and 3" velcro disks. Oh yeah, at the last minute a gallon of Bush Oil fell into my bag too. I'll be interested to see how it stacks up against my current favorite Watco.

    There was one black blot however. Ruth Niles was gracious enough to sell the DVD for me from her table, and some criminal made off with one without paying for it. So human nature really is still the same, even at a symposium. But overall, this was a very good experience, and I would have to say that it outweighs my bad experiences. I am sure I will still meet snobs, and those who make themselves better by putting others down, and I will meet those who think they have a patent on something they think is original, but I was very much gratified to see that things were better than they seemed in the past, and I will smile as I send in my check for next year's membership. Why, I might even go to another symposium sometime!

    Bill

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    Sounds like a really good time Bill. I just wish it was a little closer to me.

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    Hi Bill,

    Opinioniated? You? noooooo

    Thanks for the write up. I hope to turn enough to convince LOML I should go to a symposium next year.
    Chuck

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    See what happens when you get famous

    I intend never to get that way. I mean famous of course. Wish I was there.

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    In the elevator

    Bill, when I rode with you in the elevator that first morning, my compliment to you was most sincere. As a retired teacher I appreciate your DVD both for its comprehensive turning content as well as for its instructional presentation (and humor).

    However, after reading your statement about not receiving any negative comments about the DVD, I have to say that being a person of smaller stature, I would've needed a lot of courage to have made any negative comments while locked in an elevator with someone of your height and turning muscle .

    Seriously, it was a pleasure to meet you. You ARE what I saw in the video...genuinely sincere and down-to-earth! It's interesting how all the other presenters and participants at this Symposium were such great people, too (except for the "criminal").

    I'll be interested in your feedback on the Bush Oil. Our Seacoast New Hampshire group is meeting tomorrow night to discuss finishes. I'm bringing two pieces done with Watco & Beall, two with Bush Oil and Beall, and two with only Beall. I'm anxious to see what people prefer... without any knowledge of which is which.

    Kudos to the Adirondack Woodturners for another well organized and enjoyable woodturning weekend!

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    Bill,
    I enjoyed meeting you as well. I guess I wondered what you thought of the symposium too. Like it or not you are a bit of a celebrity. I think you have valid and well thought out opinions that you express here. I guess people are wondering if you are doing a critique of the show. I enjoyed meeting Anthony as well and would have liked to meet Jack too had I known. I spend alot of time in Maine. Perhaps a Creeker visit in Vacationland sometime. I hope to see you again next year.
    John
    By the way I made it home in 1hr and 29 minutes door to door. Matt is right I fly low to the ground.
    I could cry for the time I've wasted, but thats a waste of time and tears.

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    It was a good time, I spent more time with Bill this weekend than in the last 10 years I've known him and I still like him I met and spent some time with John and met Matt but I don't know if I met Jack but I did meet a ton of other people. I had a good time and got a bonus tour of Albany on Saturday night.

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    Good morning all

    Jack, it was good to meet you in person, and I appreciate your kind words. I am just a big teddy bear though, wouldn't hurt a flea.

    John, thanks again for the burls. Anthony knows I have them, so I guess I have to give him at least one. I will be sure to post them when they are turned.

    Yeah, it was the most time I ever spent with Yak, and it was still a good time. It was a lot of fun, but I think it is even better if you have some folks you know to hang around with from time to time.

    For the rest of you guys, perhaps we will meet at one of these things one of these days. Meeting folks at these events are fun, but it is even better meeting up with those who we correspond with here and on other forums.

    Bill

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    Hey Bill, and to think I new you way back before all this. I still tell everyone about all the help you gave me, and that northern hospitality. The best thing you beginning turners can do is take classes from Bill, I am speaking from experience.
    Thanks Bill
    Glenn Hodges
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