Green EX-21 Excalibur Scroll Saw Age?

[richard poitras]

I have an opportunity to purchase an Excalibur scroll saw it is one of the green ones.

My questions:
Are the green ones still made in Canada?
Also, I have the serial number and it is 21336410?
Does the 10 on the end signify the year?

Any help on identifying the age is appreciated.
Thanks Richard

[Larry Frank]

Try Scroll Saw Village....a lot of knowledgeable folks t her about scroll saws.

[Michael Moscicki]

To my knowledge the saw should be black and have Somerville Design on it. Green was the color of General Canada and as such became the color when General acquired it and incorporated it into the General International brand. Now King Industrial, another Canadian brand, owns the rights to produce the saw and the color is now black,

Here is an example
http://www.esantegroup.com/sale/cl-e...scrollsaw.html

Another Canadian saw to look out for is the DeWalt DW788 Type 1 saw. The Type 2 is made in Taiwan. Hegner scroll saws are to my knowledge still made in Germany(West Germany if you find old ones). RBI/Hawk scroll saws are made in the USA. Lastly you have your old iron scroll saws such as the Powermatic 95, old Craftsman scroll saws, and old Delta scroll saws which were made in the USA.

I would ask for photos especially one which shows the information including country of origin which should be located under the motor.

[richard poitras]

Here is some information I had gotten off the web about the Excalibur saws that may be interesting to others: ( not my words )

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1982 - Somerville Design introduces the Excalibur scroll saws manufactured in Toronto Ontario
• 2003 – General International acquires the assets of Summerville Design including the Excalibur brand. G.I. sends the 21” scroll saw to Taiwan to be manufactured and adds the 30” version.
• 2008 + or – G.I. adds the 16” version.
• 2010 – EX-21 awarded “Editor’s Choice” by Scroll Saw Woodworking and Crafts magazine.
• 2012 - the EX-21AE 30th anniversary edition is introduced. 1000 units available. Color changed from green to black and dust collection added to the table, stand and foot switch are included.
• 2012-13 – G.I. goes back to the models EX-16, EX-21 and Ex-30 retaining the black color and other Anniversary options on all saws. No more General green..
• 2014 + or – G.I. is sold to DMT holdings of Seattle WA. Including the Excalibur brand but not the manufacturing rights for the scroll saw. They are held by the manufacturer in Taiwan.
• 2015-16 - JPW (Jet)designs their 22” saw and has it manufactured by the same Taiwan maker as the original Excalibur saws.
• 2016 + or – The original Taiwanese manufacturer seeks new North American distribution for the original design scroll saws.
• 2016 – King Canada is granted distribution rights to the original 16”, 21” and 30” saws for the Canadian market. They are branded Excelsior in Canada and King Industrial in the U.S.
• 2016 - Due to design similarities of the Jet 22”, the manufacturer restricts King’s U.S. distribution to the 16” and the 30” versions.
• 2016 – Woodcraft commits to national U.S. distribution of the King Industrial 16” and 30” scroll saws.
• 2017 – Seyco introduces their version of the saw manufactured by the same maker as the Excalibur, Excelsior, King Industrial and the JPW saws.
• 2017 - The European saws Azxminster, Pegas Etc., are all made by the same Taiwanese maker. These saws were previously supplied to them by G.I.
• 2018 + or - General International (DMT Holdings) begins to market a Chinese made version of the 21” saw under the Excalibur name and model number.

Summary, The only original Excalibur saws are now branded either King Industrial (U.S.) or Excelsior (Canada). At this time, there is no original design 21” available in the U.S. The Seyco and the JPW (Jet)saws are designed after the Excalibur saws with proprietary differences. So, the King Industrial/Excelsior saws are the original design with a different name and the saw branded Excalibur is a different saw with the original name. The many manufacturing nuances and extreme tolerances make these saws virtually impossible to copy and have them function as they were originally designed.

Note, when I use the term “original”, I refer to original manufacturer, original design, original components, parts, motors, and specifications.

North American Model #’s
• Original EX-16 is now Excelsior XL-16 in Canada
• Original EX-16 is now King Industrial KXL-16 in the U.S.
• Original EX-21 is now Excelsior XL-21 in Canada (not available in the U.S.)
• Original EX-30 is now Excelsior XL-30 in Canada
• Original EX-30 is now King Industrial KXL-30 in the U.S.
• General still uses model #EX-21, “made in China” on the box and 16” or 30’ no longer available.
• Seyco Model ST-21, 21” no other sizes available to my knowledge
• Jet Model #727299K, 22” no other sizes available to my knowledge


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