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    Help With Screw Size Please...

    I need some cap head screws for my Festool MFT 1080. Parts calls for M8x14-8.8. I'm looking for a source other then Festool, but I'm not sure how to interpret M8x14-8.8 to do a search. I looked on McMaster Carr, but got confused on the numbers. Help please?

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    M8 14mm long grade 8.8

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    M8 is the shaft size
    14 is the thread pitch
    8.8 is the length

    Are you looking for hex head or socket head cap screws?

    Here is a place that has both, I find it easy to navigate

    https://www.albanycountyfasteners.co...urement=Metric

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edward Weber View Post
    M8 is the shaft size
    14 is the thread pitch
    8.8 is the length

    Are you looking for hex head or socket head cap screws?

    Here is a place that has both, I find it easy to navigate

    https://www.albanycountyfasteners.co...urement=Metric
    Socket head cap screws. I see M8-1.25 x 16M (FT). Is this the M8x14-8.8? See...I'm confused.
    Last edited by Derek Arita; 11-03-2022 at 3:44 PM.

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    Sorry...here was my confusion...the parts list calls for M8x14-8.8, but I just sized the screw and it's M8 1.25 x 14mm long. I was searching for M8 8.8 pitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derek Arita View Post
    Sorry...here was my confusion...the parts list calls for M8x14-8.8, but I just sized the screw and it's M8 1.25 x 14mm long. I was searching for M8 8.8 pitch.


    8.8 is the strength rating.
    M=Metric
    8=8mm diameter
    14=14mm length
    8.8=strength rating Like Grade 5, grade 8 etc. in 'merican fasteners.
    Sometimes thread pitch is also specified. Standard 8mm pitch is 1.25, fine pitch is 1.00
    BillL
    Last edited by William Lessenberry; 11-04-2022 at 1:07 AM.

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    I was getting my metric and Standard intertwined. I apologize
    So yes, M8 x 1.25 is a pretty common size, all you need to do is find one with the head you want, 14 mm long with a grade 8.8.
    This is just an example, but I believe this is what you're after
    https://www.fastenere.com/m8-125-x-1...ad-quantity-25

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edward Weber View Post
    M8 is the shaft size
    14 is the thread pitch

    14 is way to much for thread lead. It would look like a dirt auger.
    8.8 would be a special order custom length, unlikely.
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    Last edited by Jim Becker; 11-04-2022 at 5:07 PM. Reason: fixed quote tagging

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    FYI Metric thread spacing is stated in lead, English in pitch.
    Bill D

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    Yes Bill, I corrected my error.

    I also don't have the manual the OP is working from, only what he wrote.
    My peanut brain built a half standard and half metric bolt.

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    My Harrison metal lathe(1976?) is a interesting mix of English and metric. everything is metric except the native English lead screw is the same metric diameter as the Metric one but the threads are like 4 threads per inch. Same deal for the compound screw. Of course the nuts match that odd ball thread. But only those four pieces.
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    It's my primitive understanding that it’s very difficult to cut imperial threads with a metric leadscrew but easy the other way around with a 127 tooth change gear. Also, who doesn’t like working in thousandths of an inch? Its more intuitive than some odd number of microns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Dufour View Post
    FYI Metric thread spacing is stated in lead, English in pitch.
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    On a single start thread aren't lead and pitch the same?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Bruette View Post
    On a single start thread aren't lead and pitch the same?

    Pitch is the distance of one revolution of the thread.

    Lead is the distance of the pitch in relation to the number of leads or thread starts in a thread.
    Last edited by michael langman; 11-04-2022 at 6:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by michael langman View Post
    Pitch is the distance of one revolution of the thread.

    Lead is the distance of the pitch in relation to the number of leads or thread starts in a thread.
    According to the 23rd edition of Machinery's Handbook, I know it's old but I don't think these definitions have changed. The pitch of a screw thread is the distance from the center of one thread to the center of the next thread. This measurement applies no matter if the thread has a single, double, triple or quadruple thread.

    The lead of a screw thread is the distance the nut will move forward on the screw if it is turned around one full revolution. In a single-threaded screw the pitch and lead are equal.

    Pitch can be a general term of measurement for various mechanical systems. It can mean the distance from a spot on a chain link to the corresponding spot on the next chain link. It can be the distance from a spot on a gear tooth to the corresponding spot on the next gear tooth. It can also be the circular pitch of a gear or sheave. You could even apply the term pitch to woodworking. If you drilled holes for shelf pins that were 3" apart you could claim that your shelf design used a 3" pitch system.
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