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    Favorite tool for cleaning out tight dovetails?

    I’ve been practicing my dovetail cutting skills for an upcoming project and realize I need a better tool/method for cleaning out the tight inside corners. My bevel edge Japanese chisels are just too chunky to effectively get in those spots. Soooo, what do people prefer and why … thin paring chisel, fishtail chisel, skew chisel, purpose made dovetail chisel, something else entirely?
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    I don't cut many dovetails. I occasionally get to make a bow tie loose tenon. I do the final clean up with an X-acto fitted with the chisel blade.
    Last edited by Maurice Mcmurry; 10-28-2023 at 9:41 AM.
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    For me it's a fishtail chisel. I tend to cut more through dovetails than 1/2 blind, but when I do, the fishtail comes out.

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    For blind, a fishtail chisel. For through, usually nice fit right off the saw, however, I take a lot of care to shoot all edges square, exact layout, sawing in a Moxon.
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    Annother fishtail chisel user for non-through dovetails.
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    My smallest chisel is 3/16. It’s just a bevel edge chisel, but seems to work fine. I don’t try to cut pins any smaller than 1/4” at the base.

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    I have a small DT chisel. I like to mark the pin boards off my chisel I want to use. I also leave enough space for my thinnest paring chisel.

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    I also like the fishtail chisel for non-through dovetails. I have two sizes but use the larger one more. Much handier than two skew chisels but the size might be an issue with very narrow dovetails. I also like the dovetail chisels from Tools for Working Wood with the rounded backs. Very comfortable. Use of denatured alcohol also helps.

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    Skew chisels work for me in cleaning out the corners of dovetails.

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    These were all made with duplicate chisels. On of the 1/4" chisels was purchased from a junk store for a buck or two. The other was given to me by a person from whom a bunch of molding planes were being bought. It had a beat up socket.

    The 1/2" chisel, second from the bottom, had a badly mushroomed socket but there was barely enough left to fit a handle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Zaffuto View Post
    ...........take.... care to shoot all edges square....
    I have a Moxon-ish vise. You've hit my problem area - what do you mean by "shoot" them square? Is there some particular technique I am missing? Or is this simply "pay closer attention"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kent A Bathurst View Post
    I have a Moxon-ish vise. You've hit my problem area - what do you mean by "shoot" them square? Is there some particular technique I am missing? Or is this simply "pay closer attention"?
    I can't answer for Tony, but in my experience having the sides and ends square to the faces and each other make it easier to end up with boxes, drawers or cabinets that sit flat on a table, inside a frame or when hung on a wall.

    It is possible to join non-square pieces using dovetails, but that is a whole different way to layout and cut dovetails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Koepke View Post
    I can't answer for Tony, but in my experience having the sides and ends square to the faces and each other make it easier to end up with boxes, drawers or cabinets that sit flat on a table, inside a frame or when hung on a wall.

    It is possible to join non-square pieces using dovetails, but that is a whole different way to layout and cut dovetails.

    jtk
    You said it better than me, Jim! Amazing that taking a few minutes extra early on, saves much more time later.
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    18 degree skews work well.

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    He means you should use a shooting board to square the ends. A quick search here will give you an endless amount of results on shooting boards/planes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kent A Bathurst View Post
    I have a Moxon-ish vise. You've hit my problem area - what do you mean by "shoot" them square? Is there some particular technique I am missing? Or is this simply "pay closer attention"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Kananis View Post
    He means you should use a shooting board to square the ends. A quick search here will give you an endless amount of results on shooting boards/planes.

    Thanks, John - I mis-read his comments.

    I'm all over shooting. 3 different sizes/functions. A small one that runs a LN 140 skew block; a "normal" with a 62 LA jack - 2 blades, 2 angles for end v face; and a loooong one that is really a jointer/width-sizer with an LV shooting plane.


    My problem is always making my saw cuts normal/perpendicular to the wood face, so the pins mate up square with the tails. There might be a secret club on how to do this properly.
    When I started woodworking, I didn't know squat. I have progressed in 30 years - now I do know squat.

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