I agree, Jim. It's very interesting. My brother was a truck driver and used to haul oak logs for BBQ restaurants. He would get the logs from Amish lumberjacks in Missouri. They owned thousands of acres of wooded land. They used chainsaws and heavy equipment to cut and haul the trees as well as load them onto my brother's truck. My brother got to know them pretty well and one family invited him to a meal. They ate in the basement to avoid the oppressive Missouri summer and sat around a big table. My brother really enjoyed the experience. Apparently, that particular family used power tools and power equipment to harvest logs, but there was no electricity in their home.