One other advantage of laser printers is that the printouts don't smear when wet - this usually isn't a problem, but back when I had an inkjet, if that printout got wet, the ink (water soluable) would smear, making that printout potentially useless.
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One other advantage of laser printers is that the printouts don't smear when wet - this usually isn't a problem, but back when I had an inkjet, if that printout got wet, the ink (water soluable) would smear, making that printout potentially useless.
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Jim,Originally Posted by Jim Becker
HP calls their Laser printers LaserJets, somewhat confusing since "Jet" makes one think of InkJet.
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The first HP Deskjet printers became available in 1988. They were intended to provide higher print quality than dot matrix at a lower price than laser printers of the day. I started college in 1990 and ended up buying an HP Deskjet printer my second semester. The college computer lab offered no cost dot matrix printing, but the laser printer cost five cents per page.
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Same as it ever was. Back in 1989, I bought one of the very first inkjet printers: an HP DeskJet. They were already on the second or third generation of LaserJets at the time. And I seem to recall that their Ethernet-to-parallel network adapters had a 'Jet' in the name as well.
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The complaints about inkjet ink costs reminds me of a well-known hack for the early-'80s Epson dot-matrix printers.
When the printing started to fade, you could open up the ribbon cartridge and spray WD40 into it to extend another week or so of life.
Yoga class makes me feel like a total stud, mostly because I'm about as flexible as a 2x4.
"Design"? Possibly. "Intelligent"? Sure doesn't look like it from this angle.
We used to be hunter gatherers. Now we're shopper borrowers.
The three most important words in the English language: "Front Towards Enemy".
The world makes a lot more sense when you remember that Butthead was the smart one.
You can never be too rich, too thin, or have too much ammo.
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Yes, that's true...and I'm sorry if I missed the wording. When I think of "LaserJet", my mind still goes to the old time "tanks" that were the market leaders years ago.
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way back used laser jet 6. They had a feed roll issue. It could be solved with an additional foam thing. I never heard about it. that finally died someone had given me another one and carried on. Next got the HP laser jet pro M402dn and now many years on it its been flawless. Cartridges cost and when they get weak I take them out and shake them and then I get more printing till I get out to get a cartridge. Ive weighed old and new and the difference is small. Pretty sure a smart person could figure out where to drill and put ink back in. saw this done with a cheap printer where they did tests on how many pages and it was pathetic. He did careful testing in different ways and the cost to keep buying cartridges. He drilled and filled and it worked great. Ink sucked out of bottles.
Have an Epson 1270 a friend made a living on for years. I got it and it did great colour work. Eventually no more cartridges available though maybe some aftermarket. What I like is it weighs a ton. Pretty guys took bottles and ran hoses to them and carried on. Reading one day about colour printers there were advantages to Ink Jet and to Laser if memory is working said Laswer was more conducive to brochures and promo work and ink jet did higher quality. Didnt put much time into it.
For the black M402 or others has anyone drilled and filled their old cartridges?
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How is the color "made"?
Straight B/W laser printers (I have one...HP 2015) use a toner cartridge.
What do they use to get colors?
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I had one similar but got rid of it when I had to keep buying cartridges because they are chipped and would not print after a certain date. It was more expensive than an inkjet printer for printing. I got a dell color all in one that has cheaper cartridges and is not chipped. I have had this one for 12 years now
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The nozzels on inkjet cartriges can often be revitalized by cleaning with a Q-tip and some rubbing alcohol,
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They produce colors the typical way. They have 4 colored toner cartridges. The colors are Cyan, Magenta, Yellow and a Black cartridge. There are different physical ways of achieving the final product but it typically involves "printing" with each color individually although you don't really see that happening. By adjusting the amounts of each, the spectrum of all colors can be produced.
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Which is essentially the same way that inkjets produce colors. The difference is the method of transfer of the individual spots of color. Laser toner is "dry"; inkjet ink is "wet" (until it isn't...)
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It's roughly similar to the difference between painting and powder-coating, if that helps.
Yoga class makes me feel like a total stud, mostly because I'm about as flexible as a 2x4.
"Design"? Possibly. "Intelligent"? Sure doesn't look like it from this angle.
We used to be hunter gatherers. Now we're shopper borrowers.
The three most important words in the English language: "Front Towards Enemy".
The world makes a lot more sense when you remember that Butthead was the smart one.
You can never be too rich, too thin, or have too much ammo.
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OK... Thanks Jim and Lee (good analogy, Lee) ...now I sees it.
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But they have a lower print per page price
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