Gloat. The third leg of my shaping triangle comes home. Da Moulder.

[Reg Mitchell]

did you hold a gun on the guy when you were handing him the money Dev...

[Geoff Barry]

Dev,

Yes, that is very helpful. Having never seen a real production shop, and not being a professional, it can be hard sometimes to understand the significance of the difference between the hobby machines and the professional ones. I mean, I can "see" what the difference is, but I don't understand when the difference comes into play, if that makes sense. Before I ever started woodworking, I knew the difference between a router table and a shaper (well, by shaper I mean one of the 1.5 or 3 hp ones, not like the ones you and Lou have), but I would not have understood why somebody might want one over the other. So I appreciate these "get yer ass in the know" type of posts . . .

Steve,

Thanks - and yes, Geoff is the first name

[Dev Emch]

did you hold a gun on the guy when you were handing him the money Dev...

Not lately! The chinese are making rusty old iron more valuable than gold! Last week or so, several electrical companies were broken into and the burglers stole the copper wire spools. Now they have to lock up the copper wire at night. Hey Reg, need any copper wire? Ummmmm, yah, the spool just fell of this truck you see....

[Brian Jarnell]

You can pick up a good older foursider for about US$10000 here in NZ.

[Reg Mitchell]

LOLOL yea' I'm about ready to start wireing my place. My 3 phase box will be here wed., the PM # 10 here fri. I hope the F&E is still at work ready to be toted home to the shop. Milbury has newly sharpened knives and the F&E 5 new heads. The snoflake has new shoes and a friend of mine is bringing a 12" nortfield. The Oliver should be back together ummmmmmm in the not to distant future. The Oliver planer is shivering to be fired up to chew up some hickory for my new cabinets. So bring on the copper and lets party....

[Alan Turner]

Dev,
Just out of curiosity, what do you figure it will cost per hour to operate that beast in terms of electric company charges?

[Stu Ablett in Tokyo Japan]

What....?

You guys don't have three phase in your shops.......??

[John Miliunas]

What....?

You guys don't have three phase in your shops.......??

Why shore I do! Phase 1: Wire the circuit, install the outlet and breaker. Phase 2: Flip the breaker "On". Phase 3: Plug the dang machine in!

[Stu Ablett in Tokyo Japan]

Why shore I do! Phase 1: Wire the circuit, install the outlet and breaker. Phase 2: Flip the breaker "On". Phase 3: Plug the dang machine in!

Boy, you do it the easy way!

I have a few more "Phases", they include some skinned knuckles and bad words said, as well as extra trips to the lectric store, and searching for the stuff I "KNOW" I have, but can't find.......

[tod evans]

dev, i just read up on mattison, this must have been one of the first machines to offer outboard bearings in the collars? the ol` hermintance(sp) my friend owns has babbit caps. when did they get away fron the square heads? i thought it wasn`t untill the late 40`s. i know of an old gangrip i can call about from the same era if you`re interested? tod

[Matt King]

Oh, I want to see Reg's response here about the electricity cost.... When I picked up my bandsaw from him, we had a chat about that.... ~shaking head~ You folks that currently have 3-phase better hang on to your hats, because what he tells you (if'n he tells the truth! ) will make you sick!

Reg? Oh, Reg? What have you to say, sir Reg?

Later!

Matt

[Jerry Olexa]

Wow!!! that is a bigun'. You're the man

[Pete Harbin]

That's it Dev! No more for you. The balance of the planet is starting to shift! You are in seroius jeopardy of sending us spinning off out of our solar system.

Cool score bud!

Pete

[Alan Turner]

Dev,
Just out of curiosity, what do you figure it will cost per hour to operate that beast in terms of electric company charges?

Is this question being avoided?

[Dev Emch]

Is this question being avoided?

That depends on many factors so there is no clean answer.

If I run absolute full load continous, I can burn about 120 amps. That is assuming full depth patterns with maximum feed rates on a 6 in by 4 in billet.

But since I am more interested in quality than quanity, I can back off on the feed rate which takes some of the intensity off the motors.

Also, depending on what your doing, you dont always need to run all four heads.

Lastly, if your running stock for any given project, your usually running a very short run of material. That is one of the reasons for having a machine like this.

Hope this sheds some light...