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  1. 12-06-2006, 3:57 PM #1
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    your opinion on this lathe?

    I came acrross a local for sale ad for the following. I am looking for an inexpensive entry level lathe and thought this might fit the bill.

    Your opinion would be greatly appreicated.

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    INDUSTRIAL 4 SPEED PORTABLE 40' WOOD TURNING LATHE
    Construction - Headstock, tailstock, foot, tool rest base and tool rest of heavy cast iron. Bed is of heavy steel tubing.
    Headstock . The outboard end of the drive spindle can also be used for large turning and is threaded ¾.16 left hand. The pulley system and motor are mounted to the headstock.
    Tailstock - Slides along the full length of bed and clamps positively at any distance from drive spindle. The ram has a hand wheel advance of 2 3/8 inches with positive lock and is fitted with a No. 1 Morse taper
    Frequency - 60 Hz
    Maximum Length Of Cutting Feed - 40 inch (1000 mm)
    Max. Diameter- 14-1/4" (365 mm)
    Height Of Cutting Tool- 7" (178 mm)
    Motor Power- Single Phase 350 Watts
    Spindle speed- 4 speeds
    Turning Capacity - 356mm (14 inches) max diameter over bed. 1000mm (40 inches) max between centers
    Pulley system- 4 speed V belt
    Spindle speeds - 1100, 1600, 2300, 3400 rpm
    Motor - 350W, 1400 rpm, AC 110V, 50/60 Hz
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  3. 12-06-2006, 4:18 PM #2
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    RUN...don't walk away from this thing. Lowest speed is 1100 rpm...fine for pens but not safe for anything much larger. Underpowered. Light weight. Nothing "industrial" outside of the marketing name. Nope...save your pennies. That's my honest advise.
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  4. 12-06-2006, 4:23 PM #3
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    Man! I hate it when Becker is right.

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    I agree with Jim - don't even consider it! Keep looking - you'll find something.
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  6. 12-06-2006, 4:49 PM #5
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    If it costs more than $5, then it is overpriced. It is guaranteed to kill your interest in woodturning.

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  7. 12-06-2006, 5:10 PM #6
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    I have that lathe and I can tell you don't buy it.
    Officially, I'm still shopping for my first lathe.
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  8. 12-06-2006, 6:24 PM #7
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    The scrap yard man gave my brother $9 for his for scrap metal. Don't even think about it. Not when you have Rikon, Jet mini or Delta midi's out there. Save your pennies and get one of these.
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  9. 12-06-2006, 6:48 PM #8
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    Thanks for the great candid advise. I will not waste any more thought on this one.

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  10. 12-06-2006, 7:03 PM #9
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    Benjamin.....You got some pretty savvy advice about slow speeds. I have a Jet Mini VS. It's slowest speed is 450 or 550 rpm IIRC....When I put a 9" bowl blank on that's out of balance....it's WAY TOO Fast! Causes a lot of vibration and wobble. 1100 RPM.........That could kill somebody!
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  11. 12-06-2006, 7:17 PM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy Hoyt
    Man! I hate it when Becker is right.

    But this time he is.
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  12. 12-07-2006, 4:10 AM #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Becker
    .....Lowest speed is 1100 rpm...fine for pens but not safe for anything much larger.....
    Not sure that is even true. Can't be sure; but the thing appears not to have a Morse taper in the spindle. That could make turning pens a real headache. My take is that it might be OK for turning spindles or you might set it up as a buffing station; but bowls and pens are probably out. Could be useful if the price is right and you have a specific need??
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  13. 12-07-2006, 11:49 AM #12
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    Randy, there are a number of ways to put a mandrel on a lathe...the MT isn't required, although quite frankly, desirable from a convenience standpoint!
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  14. 12-07-2006, 12:36 PM #13
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    Doggone..............................Jims right twice in the same thread.

    The world must be comin' to an end!

    And what's worse................................I have to agree TOTALLY with him!

    WTG Jim.

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    You have gotten some very good advice. Listen very very carefully, never, never buy a lathe with a low speed like this for bowl turning. You are inviting death to your home. I wish the people selling these things would be held accountable for their actions if they claim they can be used for anything. You would be much better off building your own treddle lathe.
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  16. 12-07-2006, 3:13 PM #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Becker
    Randy, there are a number of ways to put a mandrel on a lathe...the MT isn't required, although quite frankly, desirable from a convenience standpoint!
    Fully aware of that, Jim. That is why I said a "headache" rather than "impossible."

    Scroll chuck
    Beall or other collet chuck
    Jacobs chuck
    Screw-on type mandrel
    Home made jury rig using a face plate
    And probably one or two others that have slipped my mind??
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