So what is 3 Phase going to cost me for a Delta 43-460 shaper

[Bruce Page]

They are up to $200 now. I paid $135 for my PAM-600HD.

http://www.phase-a-matic.com/StaticModels&Prices.htm

[Seth Poorman]

I don't understand the aversion to static converters. I have been using one on my turret milling machine and engine lathe, (3 & 5 hp respectively) for at least 15 years. I have run both machines all day, day after day and I have never had any issues with it. They are inexpensive and easy to install.

I have been using a static converter on my Unisaw for years now w/ no issues, but now I have 5hp 3phase Shaper so Im buying a Rotary Phase Converter to run them both, This will give me 100% power that I want for the shaper and saw, ...Bruce when you use static you loose 1/3 of your power. (Its kinda hard to run raised panels w/ less than 5hp unless you climb cut,and that takes extra time)

[David Rose]

Did I miss something? The specs you show say "phase: single", if I read them right.

David

[Mike Heidrick]

Did I miss something? The specs you show say "phase: single", if I read them right.

David

You know I just read that. And I printed it out. Maybe I will end up with a 1 phase shaper after all. It shipped.Who knows what I will get.

[Mike Heidrick]

I have been using a static converter on my Unisaw for years now w/ no issues, but now I have 5hp 3phase Shaper so Im buying a Rotary Phase Converter to run them both, This will give me 100% power that I want for the shaper and saw, ...Bruce when you use static you loose 1/3 of your power. (Its kinda hard to run raised panels w/ less than 5hp unless you climb cut,and that takes extra time)

Let me know which one you choose.

Any deals on your static converter?

[Bill Simmeth]

The Delta model number 43-460 indicates a three phase machine. The 43-455 is the single phase version of this machine.
http://www.deltamachinery.com/index.asp?e=136&p=958
http://www.deltamachinery.com/index.asp?e=136&p=959

[Andrew Shaber]

Just for grins, do the power lines going by your shop have 3 phase? (count the wires 2 wire=1 phase, 3 wire=3 phase) If there is 3 phase, it couldn't hurt to ask the power company about 3 phase power.

[Ed Breen]

when I asked my power company they quoted $1. per foot, and the line is about 1/2 mile from me. I'm sticking with the two statics I use. one for a delta shaper, the other for my griz saw. They've worked so far, why change.
Ed

[Dave Bureau]

Also looking at the ac drives mentioned. saw units for 1-40 hp for just a couple hundred bucks. is this correct or is there some other equipment required. any other information on this would be helpful.
Dave

[Bruce Page]

Bruce when you use static you loose 1/3 of your power. (Its kinda hard to run raised panels w/ less than 5hp unless you climb cut,and that takes extra time)

Yeah, that’s what they say, but I have run dozens of 3ph Bridgeport mills & lathes over the last three decades and I can’t tell any difference between the way they cut metal and the way my machines cut metal. I can take just as heavy of a cut and the machine reacts and sounds exactly the same. I have both my mill and lathe coming off the same converter.

[Mike Heidrick]

I have purchased a G5843 Autogen Static Phase Converter - 3-7hp for $100. I also have the line on a 5hp HVAC (from the top of a Toys R Us building) 184T 3phase motor for $50. Will that be enough for an idler motor? I will get the specs obn the motor soon. I know 7.5 hp would be better but price wise this is Cheap.

So far:
$999 43-460 shaper
$105 SPC
$138 router bit spindles
$$Still need a mobile base

[Alan Trout]

It is really easy to make a rotary phase converter. For many years I owned a machine shop that did not have 3 phase. I made a rotary phase converter. All you have to do is find like a 7 to 10hp 3 phase motor rated at 3450rpm. Buy a stato-phase converter to start the motor with a blade switch rated for the amperage. and then wire your equipment into the roto-phase. I had a seperate 3 phase panel for all of my equipment that was hooked to the roto-phase. It worked great and cost very little. I found the motor at a salvage yard and paid like $10 dollars for the motor. I had to put bearings in it and make a floor mount and cover for the shaft but I had less than $100 dollars in the motor and about $100 dollars for the stato-phase. This was for a 10hp roto-phase. Pretty cheap and a slick setup that was not noisy at all. As the machine shop got bigger I had to get 3phase installed. and at the time cost about 5 grand. But for about 5 years the converter was flawless. For a hobby type shop would last you a lifetime. I am not sure about the AC converters they sound intresting but have personally never used one. Good Luck Alan

[Wes Billups]

Anybody know how much a 3/4" spindle would cost for this? All of my current cutters are 3/4" bore and I really don't want to replace them if I go with this shaper.

Thanks,
Wes Billups

[Bill Simmeth]

Anybody know how much a 3/4" spindle would cost for this?

Amazon has it for $112.
http://www.amazon.com/Delta-43-807-S.../dp/B00004Z01Z