I need to know what glues work best with IPE wood and should all of the saw blades be carbide ?
I need to know what glues work best with IPE wood and should all of the saw blades be carbide ?
I know that epoxy works...I never tried PVA since I use Ipe outside
"All great work starts with love .... then it is no longer work"
PVA doesn't work (with or without acetone wipe-down first). Goop brand Marine Adhesive-Sealant doesn't work. Cheap 5 min epoxies dont work tho I suspect better epoxies probably would (West, System 3, Raka, etc). Dont know about Polyurethane glue or Urea type glues but they might be worth an experiment or two.
Use the fence Luke
I have used Poly glue (Gorilla Glue) and had good luck with it. (Make sure you wet the surface with water first (the glue needs water)
I also built my deck out of Ipe and used a Poly glue construction adhesive. It has been 4 years and no problems.
-jj
I used polyurethane glue (Gorilla-brand) on Ipe mitered stair tread returns (outdoors). The glue recently started failing after 3 years.
Bill Simmeth
Delaplane VA
Bill,
Sorry to hear that....
I used PL Premium Polyurethane Construction Adhesive and have had no problem.
I was going to use Gorilla glue, but the Ironwood guys (Ipe imports) told me to used the PL stuff. FYI...
-jj
jj -- I used the Gorilla on the mitered returns of stair treads. Construction adhesive would have telegraphed too much at that joint. The treads themselves are screwed (ipe plugs covering the screwheads).
Bill Simmeth
Delaplane VA
Just wondering. Why wont titebond waterproof glue work on ipe?
I'll second the PL Poly Premium. If possible I also try to secure with trim-head stainless screws. PL seems to like plenty of clamp pressure.Originally Posted by joseph j shields
When face screwing and plugging I've used Titebond III on the plugs--but doubt these undergo much stress.
Errol
FYI... I used the PL to attach the deck boards.
Ironwoods suggested using PL with two 2 2/12" stainless steel 15G nails on each joist (each nail at a 15 degree angle) (FYI Ipe is really hard... I broke 3 air nailers installing my deck... the hammers broke... and this was with a Senco pro nailer )
They also said this is only approved on 4" deck boards.
Their research showed that this approach would not work on 6" deck boards... they said the 6" board had too much "pulling" power and the PL + nails would fail.
Hope this helps!
-jj
i was thinking of using ipe to make some outdoor chairs. titebond wont hold to glue boards together?
Worked for me:
1. If the wood is surfaced, scuff it up a bit to remove glaze.
2. Wipe down with acetone to retard the natural oils.
3. Wet both surfaces with epoxy
4. Spread a small amount of putty (1 part sawdust/2 parts epoxy)
5. Clamp.
Its not rocket science but it might take a bit of practice. I use a decent non-carbide bandsaw blade to rip (makes nice sawdust too) but I would stick to carbide on a TS or planer.
I have been chatting with a guy from Brazil, where this stuff comes from, he said to wipe down with acetone, and then after the acetone drys to run a propane torch over the wood enough to burn out the resins in the wood that keeps glues from working, he suggested only dap marine glue riconol(spelling) or epoxy.
thanks