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    MM20 Dust Collection

    Any of you SMC people know where I can purchase a reducer from 5 inch hose to a 4 inch dust port on my MM20 saw? My dust collector uses a 5 inch hose and it fits all my other shop machines. I need something that will slip over the 4 inch port on the saw and increase up to the ID of a 5 inch hose. I checked all lumber and hardware places and nobody locally carries anything larger than a 4 inch in PVC. No adapters avaliable in my area. What did you guys do to get dust removal for your MM16 and MM20 saws? Thanks for any information. I do not have a central system just a portable roll aroung machine I hook up to what ever machine I am using at the time.

    James Huntsville, Tx.

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    Something like this??

    -- 7-step adapter provides a multitude of dust collection reducing options. Outside diameter sizes include 1", 2", 2-1/2", 3", 4", 5" and 6". Measures 9-1/2" L x 6" W x 6" Deep.



    http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=10472

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    I used a galvanized heating duct reducer. 5">4". I used mine to step down from my old 1 hp DC inlet to a 4" hose. Not sure how it'd fit a 5" hose, though.

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    Hi James,

    I've made shop built reduces out of stacked up scrapes of plywood ( 3 to 4" stacks), simply cut a hole to fit the MM20's dust port od & cut the outside to fit the hose's id, preferably with a tapper to give it a friction fit.

    Or you can spin it on a lathe to make the outside tapper fit for the hose.

    You can also use this to reduce a dust gate to fit a smaller dust port on a machine.

    Hope this helps,
    jim
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    Try AHS

    http://www.airhand.com/category.asp


    they'll have em for @ 24 bucks, or will custom fit if the MM has a metric port for about $30.

    I've tried the step downs and I think they are rubbish, they work but not as well as a tapered reducer. You spent a bit of coin on the MM, don't skimp on the accessories to run it properly.

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    James -

    I think I got it from Oneida. It's a single long taper 5 to 4" diameters. I also had a 6 to 5 to 5 wye made locally from a sheet metal / ductwork supply house locally....give that a shot too- 24 guage sheetmetal...

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    Quote Originally Posted by James Jones
    Any of you SMC people know where I can purchase a reducer from 5 inch hose to a 4 inch dust port on my MM20 saw? My dust collector uses a 5 inch hose and it fits all my other shop machines. I need something that will slip over the 4 inch port on the saw and increase up to the ID of a 5 inch hose. I checked all lumber and hardware places and nobody locally carries anything larger than a 4 inch in PVC. No adapters avaliable in my area. What did you guys do to get dust removal for your MM16 and MM20 saws? Thanks for any information. I do not have a central system just a portable roll aroung machine I hook up to what ever machine I am using at the time.
    FYI. The dust port on the MM bandsaws isn't exactly 4", it's 100mm or something similar. Anything rigid may have a hard time fitting over it. In fact, the 100mm fitting from oneida also won't fit my MM16, even though the MM16 port is sized as advertised.

    Pete

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    Can't tell you about a taper/reducer. I do believe in PVC, it goes from 4" to 6". I've never seen PVC in 5". If you need something slightly larger to help fit a 4" to 5" metal taper or reducer, get a short piece of 4" SD 2729 thin wall PVC(sewer and drain, not the schedule 40 or 80). It is a very tight fit on the MM 100 mm port. Tight enough not to need any sealant!! Might need to bevel the edge after cutting to get it started. Jim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Brown
    FYI. The dust port on the MM bandsaws isn't exactly 4", it's 100mm or something similar. Anything rigid may have a hard time fitting over it. In fact, the 100mm fitting from oneida also won't fit my MM16, even though the MM16 port is sized as advertised.

    Pete
    This is correct..... I had to cut the fitting from Oneida with sheet metal shears to get a friction fit......
    I really wish the port was on the little 'sliding cover' underneath the table - so you could get the DC port closer to the blade guides - I think that's where it should be! Maybe a modification...but I guess is doesn't bother me enough....YET!

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    The port on the machine is a 100mm port which is a proverbial hair over 4". Oneida's 4" hose can be stretched over it, so rather than having a big, fat adapter at the machine, use the flex hose and reduce closer to the drop. This is exactly what I did for my MM16 and it works wonderfully. No need to buy an expensive 100mm to 5" adapter, IMHO.
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    James, This was my solution for my MM16. I don’t know why it wouldn’t work for the MM20 too.
    http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?t=10090

    Opps, I didn't read your post all of the way through.
    I use a four inch hose to connect to the BS.
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    Bruce--that is a "great" solution! Why didn't I think of that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug Mason
    Bruce--that is a "great" solution! Why didn't I think of that?
    Not everybody is as lazy as I am...
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    Maybe I'm lazy, or don't understand the physics of dust collection, but I simply wrapped the outside of my MM16 dust collectin port with duck tape until my 5 inch flex hose fit with a friction fit. I certainly don't see any negative performance impacts from doing it this way, although I suppose that there could be. Also, it was free and easy, if not very elegant.

    Mike

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    http://www.ptreeusa.com/dustfittings.htm Part number 438 at Peachtree, $4.50.
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