I called Grizzly today to see if they had a referral of someone in the in my area that has one of their G1023 series saws that I could look at. They gave me the name of a guy that has the exact saw I want. To my suprise the guy they gave me as a referral was one of my neighbors when I was a little kid. Haven't seen him in many many years. I called him and we talked for quite a while. He lives about three houses down from my brother. I'm going to go check it out soon.