Will not purchase at Lowes

[Al Willits]

Progress weaves a wicked web at times, doesn't mean we need to go backwards though, we go far enough back in each of our pasts and some relative was probably mistreated or not treated as a equal.

But I think the point here is Lowe's and other commercials are demeaning, shouldn't matter who they are demeaning to.

Al...who see's this post going downhill fast....

[Steven Triggs]

Gentlemen, the victimization you may be seeing on TV commercials and other places is just those same ads from the 50s-60s-70s-80s (yes, the 80s) with gender roles reversed.

Nancy,
Don't I get any credit for being the first guy on here to make that point, albeit not in so many words!

Anyway, I think you're right. I think most guys don't see the problem with the commercials that offend you, so I don't think we have much right to be offended by the new ones.

[John Schreiber]

I see a lot of good posts in this thread and a healthy debate with a lot of important facts and valuable opinions.

No one, not one of us, not a corporation, not an ad agency, nor a country should demean anyone. Every human being is worthy of dignity.

When I was a kid in Ohio, we told "polock" jokes, not knowing what a "polock" was. When I moved to Austin Texas as a child, we told "aggie" jokes. I think "aggies" were the other big university in Texas, but it didn't matter. I can also remember racist jokes from back then that I am ashamed to even have in my memory.

Now, we tell blond jokes and make fun of white males. I think it is progress that in our humor we have gone from picking on the powerless to picking on the powerful.

Of course, real progress would be to not pick on anyone.

[Nancy Laird]

No one, not one of us, not a corporation, not an ad agency, nor a country should demean anyone. Every human being is worthy of dignity.

When I was a kid in Ohio, we told "polock" jokes, not knowing what a "polock" was. When I moved to Austin Texas as a child, we told "aggie" jokes. I think "aggies" were the other big university in Texas, but it didn't matter. I can also remember racist jokes from back then that I am ashamed to even have in my memory.

Now, we tell blond jokes and make fun of white males. I think it is progress that in our humor we have gone from picking on the powerless to picking on the powerful.

Of course, real progress would be to not pick on anyone.

Mutual respect--that's the key. No matter your sex, race, color, gender, national origin, sexual orientation, religion, or whatever--every living person deserves respect and consideration. If one can not respect others, one can not expect respect from others.

Nancy

[Dave Fifield]

Thank you for starting this thread Cliff. I've ranted about man-bashing adverts for many years and thought I was the only one who noticed. Until now. I absolutely refuse to use any product that has a man-bashing ad.

From the window cleaner product (where the magpies laugh at the stupid man who can't see the patio door), to the "it's not delivery" pizza (where the game-watching men get watered down by the wife turning on the sprinklers), and every shade in between: all get no business from me.

It's strange that even with a DVR (Dish Network ViP622), the TV advertizers seem to have worked out how to put their messages at the 30 second skip intervals so that they still get some eyeball time! Insideous!!

[Steven Triggs]

From the window cleaner product (where the magpies laugh at the stupid man who can't see the patio door)

Umm, Dave, I'm pretty sure the window cleaner commercial is supposed to be funny because it is birds watching a person walk into glass, instead of people watching birds fly into glass. I don't think it has anything to with the fact that person is male.

[Nancy Laird]

From the window cleaner product (where the magpies laugh at the stupid man who can't see the patio door),...

Dave, would it be acceptable to you if it was a woman walking into the glass, or a child, or an elderly person, or a Native American?

Nancy

[Ernie Hobbs]

Dave, would it be acceptable to you if it was a woman walking into the glass, or a child, or an elderly person, or a Native American?

Nancy

I think our society is entirely too sensitive. I actually like this commercial but I think the larger issue is that the only group of people that it is acceptable to make fun of these days is white males. Political correctness is running rampant and companies that make these commercials can't afford to offend anyone, especially a target consumer. Since white males are fair game, they have become the butt of every joke. Personally, I don't mind it since they are funny and I like a good laugh but, maybe we (all groups included) take ourselves too seriously and are too thin-skinned.

On the brighter side, with all of the issues with immigration and the growth of the Latino community, maybe it won't be too long before we qualify as a minority and are off-limits for insensitive comments. I won't be long-

Mutual respect--that's the key. No matter your sex, race, color, gender, national origin, sexual orientation, religion, or whatever--every living person deserves respect and consideration. If one can not respect others, one can not expect respect from others.

Nancy

Exactly. I totally agree.

[Dennis Peacock]

Mutual respect--that's the key. No matter your sex, race, color, gender, national origin, sexual orientation, religion, or whatever--every living person deserves respect and consideration. If one can not respect others, one can not expect respect from others.

Nancy

Very well stated Nancy!!!!!! AMEN to that!!!!

[jonathan snyder]

Another good reason to shoot your tv!!

Jonathan

[Lee DeRaud]

Personally, I don't mind it since they are funny and I like a good laugh but, maybe we (all groups included) take ourselves too seriously and are too thin-skinned.

Second that.

The "too-thin-skinned" group includes executives of the companies that advertise: Carl's Jr, that bastion of good taste that brought us images of Paris Hilton humping an SUV (or maybe washing it, it was hard to tell), has sued Jack In The Box over their latest ad campaign. Apparently they think their own customer base is too stupid to know the difference between "Angus" and "anus". Which, come to think of it, is certainly possible, although I seriously doubt the customer base of either restaurant really cares what part of the cow the meat comes from.

(I hereby apologize to any SUV owners, Paris Hilton fans, advertising executives, or animal-rights activists who were offended by the preceding paragraph.)

[Al Willits]

Second that.

The "too-thin-skinned" group includes executives of the companies that advertise: Carl's Jr, that bastion of good taste that brought us images of Paris Hilton humping an SUV (or maybe washing it, it was hard to tell), has sued Jack In The Box over their latest ad campaign. Apparently they think their own customer base is too stupid to know the difference between "Angus" and "anus". Which, come to think of it, is certainly possible, although I seriously doubt the customer base of either restaurant really cares what part of the cow the meat comes from.

(I hereby apologize to any SUV owners, Paris Hilton fans, advertising executives, or animal-rights activists who were offended by the preceding paragraph.)

Good points, I don't mind a good joke or two, even if it isn't PC, my outlook is that if you can't take a joke about you, you shouldn't tell one about someone else, works for me anyway.

PC has gone off the deep side, between that and affirmative action with its quota's, I think we headed downhill fast.
Thank goodness I'm also close to retired and don't have to put up with this stuff much longer, gone are the days when you got hired because you could do the job, and you could say something nice about someone of the opposite sex and not have HR looking for a rope.

As I think about it, I'm thinking I'm also more aggravated with the number commercials on TV, along with their content, might be why I don't watch all that much TV anymore.

A little respect and responsibility would go a long ways now days, to bad so many think otherwise.

Al

[Doug Shepard]

I tend to ignore most TV ads, but you all have me convinced now. Lowes has robbed me of my manhood, and I refuse to shop there anymore until they take steps to restore my manliness. Maybe they could switch to topless cashiers?? That might get me back in there.

[Dennis Peacock]

Another good reason to shoot your tv!!

Jonathan

Good point Jonathan....and after 14 years with DirecTV and the kids getting a bit too "out there"....we decided to pull the plug on TV. We're now saving $60 a month that was spent on TV, the kids are reading more, they get along better, and we have much better times together as a family. So I guess you tag line would prove to be correct....tv IS educational.

[Rob Bodenschatz]

This was just posted on another site. Check out the text in the lower right corner.

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EDIT: I don't know why but it's not letting me enlarge the pic. The text says: "It's easy, even for the gentler sex, to cut attractive figures out of plywood with this Delta wood-cutting bandsaw."