Experience with JDS 2HP Cyclone

[Ben R Hogan]

I'm in the market for a 'real' DC for a home shop. I am attracted to the JDS 2HP Cyclone 2100-CK (love the form factor vs. the Oneidas or Clearvue). Cant seem to find any user feedback or reviews. I'm also trying to locate the fan curve to make sure I can get sufficient flow at my tools. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

http://www.jdstools.com/index.asp?Ca...ction=VIEWCATS.

[Jim O'Dell]

My questions are: How is it designed on the inside? Does the barrel that they call the cyclone just hide the cone? Is there a cone? Does it have the proper ratio in the cone to truely separate the fine dust from the air? After all, there is a reason the the Oneida, Clear Vue, and even the Grizzly and PSI units are the size that they are. Now you can miniturize the proper cone ratio to get a smaller unit that works as it should, see the Oneida Dust Deputy and the Clear Vue Mini as proof. For that matter, Clear Vue came out with a smaller unit that should fit under a 8' ceiling easier. (CV1400) But I would be concerned if this didn't have the proper ratio. Especially since it isn't evident to the naked eye that there even is a cone.
It may be a wonderful unit, and I don't mean to cast a shadow on it. Just questions I would want to get answered. I'd hate for you to get something that doesn't work like you want it to.
Oh, and welcome to the Creek!! You'll find this is a great place to bounce ideas off other noggins, and get some really helpful information. Jim.

[David Freed]

My questions are: How is it designed on the inside? Does the barrel that they call the cyclone just hide the cone? Is there a cone? Does it have the proper ratio in the cone to truely separate the fine dust from the air? After all, there is a reason the the Oneida, Clear Vue, and even the Grizzly and PSI units are the size that they are. Now you can miniturize the proper cone ratio to get a smaller unit that works as it should, see the Oneida Dust Deputy and the Clear Vue Mini as proof. For that matter, Clear Vue came out with a smaller unit that should fit under a 8' ceiling easier. (CV1400) But I would be concerned if this didn't have the proper ratio. Especially since it isn't evident to the naked eye that there even is a cone.
It may be a wonderful unit, and I don't mean to cast a shadow on it. Just questions I would want to get answered. I'd hate for you to get something that doesn't work like you want it to.
Oh, and welcome to the Creek!! You'll find this is a great place to bounce ideas off other noggins, and get some really helpful information. Jim.

I agree with everything Jim said. When I looked at the JDS unit, my first thought was "that isn't a cyclone". It may be a good dc though.

[Robert Payne]

I'd be rather suspicious about the efficiency of the primary 'cyclone' section. If a company needs to put a motor on their filter unit to clean it every time the system is cycled on and off, then lots of finer particulates must be getting through to the filter. I have a ClearVue CV1800 that I am installing and all of the ones I have seen remove such a high percentage of all sizes of sawdust in the cyclone that the filter sees very little dust in the units exhaust stream.

[Gary Lange]

Here are a couple reviews!

http://www.very-clever.com/information/xbdddxczxrxk-xo

[Rob Cooper]

I recently ordered a cyclone and briefly considered the JDS units. I was turned away from them due to:

-filter area is significantly smaller than the competition, this combined with a smaller cyclone leaves me thinking "actual" performance will be a lot lower than stated

-class "E" motor instead of "F"

-I could not find fan curves or many reviews

-price was not attractive

Now your space requirements may trump these issues. And the unit probably will work, but take a good look at the other two manufacturers you listed, they each have lots of happy customers.

[Ben R Hogan]

Thanks Rob (et al)...I sure wish I could find someone who's actually purchased the newer JDS 2100-CK. The questions folks raise are spot-on. However, in my experience, the best feedback on these issues is from actual users who took the plunge.

Any other forums you might suggest where I might find an existing user?

[Phil Thien]

Thanks Rob (et al)...I sure wish I could find someone who's actually purchased the newer JDS 2100-CK. The questions folks raise are spot-on. However, in my experience, the best feedback on these issues is from actual users who took the plunge.

Any other forums you might suggest where I might find an existing user?

Call JDS on Tuesday and ask them for customer references. Tell them you haven't had any luck finding any online.

[Rob Cooper]

I believe I saw these units in a woodcraft catalog? If you have a local store, they may be able to help.

Good Luck.

[Ben R Hogan]

Just in case anyone wants to see these in the future JDS sent me the fan curves for the new 2hp and 3hp cyclones. I'll post feedback I get from JDS and customers on some of the key questions above

[Eddie Kaden]

I bought a JDS Dust Force earlier this year. Before I made my purchase I called JDS customer service and spoke to a guy named Johnny. He was very knowledgeable of their product and very helpful. He even steered me in the right direction for the best deal. I would bet that he is just as knowledgeable on their Cyclone product. 800-480-7269

[Carl Babel]

I really like the form factor on these DCs. also. I called JDS and spoke with someone (don't remember the name). I asked about cyclone efficiency. Here is what they told me:
- 2100CK: 95%
- 3100CK: 98.5%

Of course, I have no idea ow this relates to anyone else in the industry, but the 98.5% doesn't sound too bad.