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Read a lot of positive reviews on the Makita black drills, but there is $$ involved.
BTW - I learned your lesson some years ago, so I got extra batteries when I was forced to buy new gear - same issue you are facing. One dead and gone. Others sruising fine.
When I started woodworking, I didn't know squat. I have progressed in 30 years - now I do know squat.
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This one? http://www.amazon.com/Makita-BDF452H...6506954&sr=8-4Originally Posted by Kent A Bathurst
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I don't know if you are close to an HD, they currently have an in store deal, bring in your old drill and get 15% off a new coedless drill. The Makita BDF452H mentioned is a sweet drill.
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Oh, I have one 5 minutes away from the house - except once you figure tax back into the equation it ends up being pretty much equal to what I can buy it for from Amazon. Plus, I can keep my current drill if I choose. I think the HD thing is a good deal if you need it *NOW*. At least for this particular drill.
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Makita 18V BHP454 | $329
Amp-Hour: 3.0 / Weight: 4.9 lb. / 3-in. drywall screws: 227
What we liked ----All three testers agreed the Makita was one of the best
------------------power tools they’d ever used. Some talented engineers
------------------designed its high-torque motor and drivetrain to squeeze
------------------every ounce of performance from the battery. It also
------------------exhibits excellent industrial design. For a large and heavy
------------------drill, it’s well-balanced and handles easily due to a nicely
------------------shaped handle with lots of rubber overmold.
What we didn't ---The switch to change from hammer to the drill or drive
------------------functions is just too hard to slide.
Bottom Line-------• • • • • BEST OVERALL
I would guess the 452 would rate pretty high also because it is the same design; just a little smaller.
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Here is the Amazon link.
http://www.amazon.com/Makita-BHP454-...6507980&sr=1-1
The 454 costs $100 more because it has 560 in/lb of torque is a hammer drill. The 452 has 450 and isn't. With Makita's reputation the 452 might be a good choice for the price, but I haven't seen any comparison tests on it.
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Definitely don't need a hammerdrill - but I'm wondering if these silver units have the same stoutness built into them as the teal colored ones I'm used to seeing?
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no, they don't.
i've used both. the green ones are generally heftier, stronger, batteries last longer, etc. that's why they cost 100 more.
i have the one david linked on the previous page. a couple of days a week, i use it for 6+ hours a day. holds a charge on one battery that long usually, might have to switch to the spare late in the afternoon. have dropped it ~30 feet onto a concrete driveway while hanging windows once, still works.
Last edited by Neal Clayton; 10-27-2009 at 12:15 AM.
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Yep. Him. Caveat - Don't have one - just read about it.
When I started woodworking, I didn't know squat. I have progressed in 30 years - now I do know squat.
My old 18 volt Makita batteries are gone. I bought a Makita 14 volt Impact Driver and Drill set at the Atlanta woodworking show a few years ago, just before the lithium drills came out. The 14 volt Makita Impact Driver seems over powered to me. I have a hard time not driving screws out the far side of boards when I use it.
I have a 12 volt Hitachi Impact Driver that I have driven countless screws with during several good size building projects, maybe I just got use to it's touch and feel. I do a fair amount of construction though and 12 volts seems like plenty for driving screws up to 3" and even drilling pilot holes. I can't imagine needing 18 volts for driving screws or pilot holes. If I want to drill a big hole I'm going for the big corded Bosh or the new Milwaukee angle drill. Or maybe the new/vintage Millers Falls Brace I won on Ebay and an auger bit. Sometimes the auger bits in the big Bosh try to turn me.
I think my next battery drill will be a Lithium 12 volt, maybe even less. I am about to try driving screws with the 'hand Drills" I got on Ebay. There are about 200 screws & bolts needed to put up a 50' x 24' party tent. Then I have to replace walls and flooring in my 8' x12' chicken house to convert it to a home for German Shepherd pups... Then I have to enclose a 21' x 16' area under a porch, shees that's a bunch of screws.....
Maybe I will have to run one of my old drills up to the depot and do the trade in for a new Lithium Drill. When you are driving as many screws as I do you start to feel the weight of a big drill by the end of the day, sometimes sooner ;-} The 14 volt Makita I bought last does not seem much less powerful than the old, original 18 volt Makita I have. It has been several more years so I am guessing a 12 volt may be comparable to an older 14.... but then all the drills have gotten lighter too....Maybe I'll play around with braces and drill accessories.
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