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    It's too bad...

    ...when a contentious subject is brought up on the Creek and the thread turns into a nasty argument and the mods have to delete it. These discussions could be very constructive even if there is never a true meeting of the minds.
    David DeCristoforo

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    I see it is gone.

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    Argument

    Argument? I didn't see anyone arguing. Differences of opinion, yes, but everyone seemed to be pretty civil.

    Having said that, I think something like that should best live in the Off Topic section. Its not really a "General Woodworking" sort of discussion. Rather than delete it, it might have been wiser to have just moved it.

    The subject definitely pertains to WW'ing, so the topic will pop up again and again. There's another thread active in OT, at least for the moment.

    That's my .02 anyway.

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    John

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    When people resort to name calling...insulting each other it 1) violates the Terms Of Service 2) diminishes the value of the thread 3) it is no longer a discussion but an uncivil sophomoric rant that doesn't belong here.

    When the amount of time it takes to edit a thread to make it civil outweighs the value of the information in the thread, it gets moved.

    BTW....I didn't move it but I was getting ready to do it. I was replying to a member who had reported it.
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    Huhh. What I miss? Good ole nanna nanna boo style argument? I do love watching grown men devolve into third graders. Sorry I missed that.

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    Name calling

    I agree with you if it got into name calling. I never saw that, but then again, I never read the whole thread.

    I'm a member of a motorcycle forum that typically has 3000-4000 members online at any one time, from all over the world. As you an imagine, it can get pretty nasty.

    Mods over there are darn quick to move things to the OT section when necessary. They even have a Church/State/Money secton within OT. I never go there, but the tales are legendary. Even OT isn't enough at times and they just begin banning people and deleting threads.

    The interweb can be a crazy place at times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Harden View Post
    I agree with you if it got into name calling. I never saw that, but then again, I never read the whole thread.

    I'm a member of a motorcycle forum that typically has 3000-4000 members online at any one time, from all over the world. As you an imagine, it can get pretty nasty.

    Mods over there are darn quick to move things to the OT section when necessary. They even have a Church/State/Money secton within OT. I never go there, but the tales are legendary. Even OT isn't enough at times and they just begin banning people and deleting threads.

    The interweb can be a crazy place at times.
    I guess that is one of the things that has made Sawmill Creek such a welcome haven - we rarely had people resorting to such behavior. I hope it does not happen again anytime soon.
    Maurice

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Harden View Post
    They even have a Church/State/Money secton within OT. I never go there, but the tales are legendary. Even OT isn't enough at times and they just begin banning people and deleting threads.

    The interweb can be a crazy place at times.
    ADV. Those threads get pretty nasty. I for one am glad SMC keeps things on a tight leash, I really don't like wading through lots of bickering to get information.

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    None of you have any idea how vile and hateful a forum can get until you've been to a certain saxophone player's forum.

    Musicians are a self-centered, opinionated bunch and the poop REALLY hits the fan when you even hint that the axe, mouthpiece, reed, music that someone 's been playing all of their life, sucks.

    Flame-retardant suits are sold wholesale there, and the vendors sell hot dogs, beer and popcorn to the spectators.

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    Motorcycles

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Cunningham View Post
    ADV. Those threads get pretty nasty.
    Yeah. Every once in awhile I'll poke my head in CSM, though I never post. People there can be, shall we say, passionate?

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    The Off Topic forum has the same rules of civility as any other forum at SMC. Moving the thread there was not an option.
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    If you are talking about the thread that I started, then yes it is too bad. I didnt even get to read all of the posts as to why it was shutdown.. That sucks...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Isaacson View Post
    If you are talking about the thread that I started, then yes it is too bad. I didnt even get to read all of the posts as to why it was shutdown.. That sucks...
    I never saw any insults between SC members either, but like I said, I never read the whole thing, and posts can hit very quickly.

    Not to worry though. This subject will be around as long as the lawsuits keep getting filed. In other words, it'll be around a L O N G time.

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    John

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    Yeah, too bad. I posted an opinion (no name calling) and went to another forum. When I came back to copy the link to the story, it had been removed.

    However, it didn't take a rocket scientist to know that the thread would be short-lived, especially here at SMC. IMHO, it was more about social/legal conditions than it was about woodworking. Throw in the connection to Sawstop and it probably reached critical mass very quickly.

    For the record, there are five pages of posts on the same topic over at Woodnet. I guess their terms of service aren't as restrictive.
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    Cody....and then you have a former roughneck for a Moderator and we know what kind of personality that takes!
    Ken

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