New LV Saws

[Charlie Stone]

that is so very very wrong of them. Those bastards.

[paul cottingham]

Yes, I am going to have to get even with them by buying them both.

no, wait.....

[John Coloccia]

Great. Now I have to make another saw till. Thanks, Rob

[David Weaver]

Wow...$100 for two high quality resharpenable saws. That's pretty convincing.

[Mark Maleski]

Wow...$100 for two high quality resharpenable saws. That's pretty convincing.

I'd say they easily win on the "best value" measurement (I'm giving the benefit of doubt on "high quality" because I'm sure they are).

[Will Boulware]

Well isn't this just unnecessarily convenient? I need a set of high-quality mid-size carcass saws, and I'm broke. These fit the bill perfectly, and they'll match my current dovetail/crosscut combo. Mr. Lee, you're out to ruin my personal finances, and I thank you for it!

[Shawn Clark]

As a beginning Neander (who is just about to pull the trigger on the LV dovetail/crosscut combo) could someone explain why I would need to add these to my order?

[Mac Houtz]

um....yeah....I'll definitely be buying that pair at that price....damned tool peddlers will get you every time.

[Mark Maleski]

...could someone explain why I would need to add these to my order?

You don't, but don't let that stop you. (What, you think anyone here would try to talk you out of buying tools?)

[John Coloccia]

As a beginning Neander (who is just about to pull the trigger on the LV dovetail/crosscut combo) could someone explain why I would need to add these to my order?

I think, therefore I buy.

Beyond that, this whole concept of "need" is far too philosophical, and that sort of deep thought has no place in the shop.

[Matt Radtke]

Well, I was /going/ to make the switch to Shaptons in November, but I guess I'm getting a couple LV Carcass saws instead. . .

[alex grams]

Darn, my self control is waning...

Good till Nov 30th... hmmm

[Richard Magbanua]

Hi, my name is Richard... and I have a saw problem.

$99 for TWO saws? Nice.

[Shawn Clark]

I guess my question should be restated. Given a limited budget (and the fact I need marking gauges/squares/dividers) would this new set get me started with joinery or do I still "need" a dovetail saw also?

Thanks.

[John Coloccia]

You'll have a difficult time make dovetails with the carcass saw. It's a bit more difficult to align because of the size (though some may actually find it easier to align) and 12tpi is a bit coarse for fine work on the thinner material you typically are dovetailing (drawers, for example).

Given a choice, and remember this is just how *I* work, if I were to get it down to a minimal set that could pretty much do all my joinery, I'd pick up:

- a 14tpi (or thereabouts) dovetail saw (filed rip)
- a pair of carcass saws, one filed rip and the other filed crosscut.

The dovetail saw will make all your dovetail cuts. It doesn't matter that one of the cuts is a crosscut (the shoulders on the pins) because it's a very small cut typically. The carcass saws do the cheeks and shoulders of the tenons, and the tenon itself. For that, it's helpful to have the saw properly filed for the type of cut you're making because they're rather long cuts in thicker wood typically.

Carcass saws do a lot more than just tenons, of course, and then there are tenon saws that can be bigger.

Of course, if you're making very small tenons, there's nothing wrong with using the smaller dovetail saws to do that, and then you'd also want the crosscut "dovetail" saw.

Again, it's just my opinion. There's plenty of people that do fine work with one, larger saw.