I want to build a couple backsaws, mainly a x-cut carcass and rip tenon/sash saw. I have read many blogs talking about building saws from either kits or parts from Wenzloff and Sons but it seems I am too late. Looking at the Wenzloff and Sons web site they do not seem to be in the parts business any longer. The backs and bolts have been out of stock for a while now. Does anyone know of an alternative for the backs? I really don't want to mill, fold, or laminate brass, as this would be too much of an investment to make it worth the trouble. Currently I am leaning toward a Gramercy carcass kit. I may pass on trying to find parts to build a tenon/sash saw and just buy a ready to use saw with a 14" .025 plate unless someone has a better suggestion for parts. I know some will say to just buy old saws, but I am tired of getting outbid on online auctions for (pictures of saws). Plus I would imagine most of the older tenon saws would have thicker plates.