I have a shed shop that only has 120 volts running out to it so I face a similar problem for my 240 volt machines. Even though I own it, I think it wouldn't be economically feasible to run a whole new underground line to the shed, especially because this shop is temporary. It's a bit sketchy as some suggested, but I'm thinking about installing a nema 6-20 outlet in the garage (what my machines use) and running an extension cord from the garage to the shed. You can buy. Legit extension cord for this, but I may build my own extension cord to save a few bucks.
This might do it.......http://www.northerntool.com/shop/too...2018_200512018
Then you could buy 3 phase machines, high voltage 440 stuff, it will run the entire neighborhood in the even of a blackout which might earn you points with the neighbors.....you'll need a place to park the diesel oil truck though.....
Last edited by Peter Quinn; 05-19-2014 at 6:34 PM.
Jason
While I don't use a generator to power the shop, primarily because it would be cost prohibitive, I do like Steve's solution, which by the way would not be a code violation as long as it plugged into receptacle with a breakout box on the garage end.
I have 2 table saws, 2 bandsaws, a 15" Jet planer, 6" Jointer, 26" Dual drum Sander, and a 1 1/2 HP dust collector. I only have 30 amps to the garage and other than the window AC unit and the shop Vac not being on the same circuit, I haven't had any issues.
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Just roll up the cord when not in use, and you should be good to go.
Steve.
Before I put in the 3 phase I did thought about buying a diesel generator set, good thing about genset is that if you ever need to move, you can take it with you, apart from this there is noise, fume, fuel, servicing and initial capital cost. I dont know how much a reliable genset cost in the US but for me, it was cheaper to install the 3 phase
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Glad its my shop I am responsible for - I only have to make me happy.
I've been in construction for years and generators are the bane of my existence. They're noisy, smelly and often break or just plain refuse to start.
My framing crews sometimes have to work off generators, if I can get a 6.5 Kw Honda(brand, not engine only) I can run a 1-1/2 hp compressor and 2-3 circ saws reliably. If the genny isn't a Honda I need either a 10Kw or a gas compressor and a 6Kw genny to be able to work. Anything else and I'm off to the next job.
The 6.5 Honda will put out 30A@240V, check the amperage of the two largest machines you'll be using at the same time(likely the table saw and dust collector) and see what you come up with. Forget the window A/C, no way you'll power a 3hp dust collector, 3hp table saw and a window unit off a 6.5Kw Honda. A 3hp motor pulls around 13A/240v at full load, 2-3 times that at startup. Two of those running at the same time leaves you only 4A to spare, not enough for an A/C unless it's a mighty small one. And don't even think about starting both machines at the same time, that'll never work.
To sum up, genny not good for your application. Paying electrician to install necessary hardware and paying for good cord is good and cheaper than buying decent genny. Avoiding citations and substantial fines for violating local noise ordinance: priceless.
HTH,
Bill
Time to dig out the hand tools. The guys that go that way love it!