Yes, I guess they can be a bit more "stiff", but I actually like a crispy crust vs a "tender/flaky" crust. To me a standard cut-in crust, even when not soggy, still taste/mouthfeel like it.
I used a couple sites while planning, but this one is good. Use REAL lard, not crisco.
https://food52.com/blog/18266-hot-wa...h-pies-deserve
Another one with milk vs just water.
http://www.geniuskitchen.com/recipe/...ham-pie-292563